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| Author | Subject: Turning my 6 into a Track Car on a budget. Help please. |
 ben8s8
Regular  Location: Not these parts Registered: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 403 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Hi everyone, my 6 is a phase 1 96 and its standard apart from a Cat back Magnex system. It's got 158k on the clock now and I'd like to turn it into a track toy on a tight budget while still keeping it road legal.Id like some help and recommendations on specific products so I can get a list going and squeeze every drop out of my £600 budget. Second hand parts are welcome! |
 Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 15:39
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro  Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
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Second hand parts is the way to go to keep on a budget  But get stripping the weight out of it. Free performance  ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged  [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 15:43
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rikky
Pikey Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,797 Status: Offline |
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best way is to buy one pre-track-ready and you will definitely save lots of money________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 15:45
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
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With just £600 I'd be looking for some decent used suspension and some decent pads. Used tyres would be an idea too if you could stretch to another set of wheels with some on and sell your originals.Strip the weight and leave the engine as is. ________________________________________  |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 15:50
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rikky
Pikey Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,797 Status: Offline |
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i think owain is gonna break his so i bet he'd do you a job lot deal on stuff________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 15:51
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Ed_van_dijk
Senior User  Location: Halesworth Registered: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 636 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Just strip it out, get some decent tyres and take it out on track and have a laugh________________________________________ Astor 6 |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 15:51
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Also don't forget the 'often forgotten' costs involved with trackdays.A decent open pit day can be anything up to around £150 for the day. Take fuel in to account as well as getting there and you're talking £200 there alone without then getting home and realising you want to improve XYZ to make the most of it. Buy a decent helmet too. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 16:00
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staley_306
Regular  Location: Leicester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 238 Status: Offline |
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Ed_van_dijk wrote: Just strip it out, get some decent tyres and take it out on track and have a laugh Best advice. Dont bother wasting money on shiny bits. Tyres are the most important thing. 888s will do nicely. And less weight is pretty free. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 16:09
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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dangti6 wrote: Also don't forget the 'often forgotten' costs involved with trackdays. This is the most frustratingly ignored point when people talk about "I fancy trackdays", until you've done then you can't possibly imagine the costs. Meaning no disrespect, £600 is a good budget to get your car more suitable for track, but will by no means turn it into an all-out track weapon; it'll do suspension, bushes and some new discs and pads, no more than that. Even cheap bucket seats are £175 apiece, proper wheels will be £300+, and tyres £200+ for a set if you're happy using decent road tyres before you even consider 888s or similar. Weight is your absolute enemy, so get on the new suspension and pads, strip out all the weight you can and just stop there. If you start doing tracks like Brands which are a little more pricey, you can easily spank £300 in a day on a trackday, and that's in a cheap little Pug. And don't even consider touching the engine except to service it, which again you'll want to do fairly regularly and will cost you £30+ a time for filters and oil. Get it light, get it serviced and get it out on track to enjoy it ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 16:25
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ben8s8
Regular Location: Not these parts Registered: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 403 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Thanks for the tips. I'll start stripping it out this weekend. Though just a thought, don't I need a cage if I'm going to use it on a track?This is what I'm thinking to do Stripped out New tyres Front springs -60mm and drop rear to match - Apex springs maybe? What about Spax? New Boss and Steering Wheel Thats about it. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 16:31
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #11
No, you don't need a cage. It's a nice to-have, but as long as you don't drive like a complete dick you shouldn't need it, plus you're looking at £1k+ for one that's worth having.________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 16:32
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rwgti
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 1,727 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Get a set of R888's on some nice light 15" wheels and strip it for starters. Before considering taking it on track I'd at least check the condition of your existing brakes and change the fluid! You don't want to be pushing the brake pedal at well over 100 and it hit the panel because its boiled or has water in it!Then the list goes on forever  A summer trackday well cost you at least £300 (inc fuel) before factoring in tyre,brake suspension wear etc... And if you are going to consistently track it I would definitely cage it! When you strip it you will soon realise there's not much protecting you ________________________________________ Team Astor Grey Supercharged GTI 6 |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 16:42
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heliosphan
Senior User  Location: UK Registered: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 950 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Just go to a track day and drive, then decide if you want to change any parts. There are so many 'track day' cars that have never seen the track. For most people it seems to be a case of spending tons of cash making a car less practical and more irritating only to sell it for 17p later, because they couldn't afford regular track days.  These days most 'track day' cars are just another way of saying 'modified car' without the stigma attached. The Max Power-style modifying scene is very distasteful and everyone knows it, but everyone will think you're super dooper cool if you strip out your interior, turn it into a squeaking rattle-box and give everybody the impression you're Seb Vettel...  |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 16:44
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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...and so it begins. I hope you left off a zero on your budget.Personally, I would not put sticky tyres on it. By doing so, you're just making the car go faster; sounds great at first until you realise all that means is your brakes and suspension are no longer good enough, and you're far more likely to roll the thing. I always just used half-decent road tyres (£60 a corner or so), and they were fine. Learning to drive will get you round a track much quicker and cheaper anyway. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 16:45
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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tompaltridge wrote: These days most 'track day' cars are just another way of saying 'modified car' without the stigma attached. The Max Power-style modifying scene is very distasteful and everyone knows it, but everyone will think you're super dooper cool if you strip out your interior, turn it into a squeaking rattle-box and give everybody the impression you're Seb Vettel... That is so true, unless you've driving to winter trackdays wearing gloves and a scarf you are not in a track car, quit fannying about and do it properly, who gives a s**t if there's ice on the inside of your windscreen and nostrils. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 16:46
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seans6
Senior User  Location: Cheshire Registered: 11 May 2011 Posts: 530 Status: Offline |
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Theres a lad on here selling pretty much pre done china blue one for not much more than a grand?Although i knows its nicer to keep your own car, but might be worth considering? |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 16:52
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playboyb
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Half decent Tires, pe2's etc and strip everything you can out. Job done  ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 17:02
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
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To be honest i have never owned 888s and ran pro 1.2s wrapped in yokhama parada spec2s and they done the job for me verry well, other cars of the same power/class as me wernt getting anywhere to be honest.Get a good set of coilovers, brakes, strip it out and get some balls to help out break others and carry your speed through the corners and you will be fine ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 17:03
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Each thing you change will warrant anther changing in order to get the most out of it.For example - I did a trackday earlier in the year after throwing the GTi6 with stock suspension, GTi6 brakes and PE2 road tyres. My brakes were ideal for the power, but the suspension and tyres were on their limit. I've since gone for ITB's, so now I suspected my slightly quicker entry speed would warrant some uprated suspension so I bought some coilovers and have spec'd up a 309 beam with some Xsara arms etc etc. So after that expenditure I realise tyres are going to the next thing holding me up, so got some R888s. I then realised I am going to have to get committed so bought a cage and some buckets. Only downside is none of the above is fitted and as I'm so lazy it probably never will be  ________________________________________ |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 17:04
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Basically, yes. Every time you spend money, all you're doing is improving that aspect and making another part the weakness. This will carry on until you have a space-framed carbon fibre 306 with a rocket engine on the back, and even then Swampy will try and sell you better hoses.________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 17:05
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Forget every single post above.Service the damn thing, full it up with fuel, JOB DONE. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 17:09
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jonnie205
Seasoned Pro Location: Bicester Registered: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 4,146 Status: Offline |
Post #22
decent front pads, get the weight out of the car.If you want a cheap improvement, xsara vts beam, xsra vts front struts, xsara vts rack. Forget engine mods, they will make no differnece under 2k spent |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 17:12
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heliosphan
Senior User Location: UK Registered: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 950 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: Forget every single post above. Service the damn thing, full it up with fuel, JOB DONE. Err... tompaltridge wrote: Just go to a track day and drive |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 17:33
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
Post #24
^ you forgot the servicing side of things. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 17:35
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
Post #25
And you didn't put any petrol in. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 17:35
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