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daver6

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Post #101
stan_306gti6 wrote:
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When you say de resonated, do you mean the bit on the side of the actaul box if gone,
Or have you remove the hemzoltz thing on the inlet?


He means the resonator on the side of the airbox not the bit under the manifold. Wink


^^ This

I have actually made a bung for the manifold, but it's only my spare mani. Can't really be bothered to fit it

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Any air duct near the ground is bad unless it's a Race car,
Having driven thru some Floods in my 306 it did fine, Just above the bottom of the doors on the car, Hate to think otherwise

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Post #103
Don't listen, do you kev? Come over as a bit of an idiot on this one. Rolling road figures really mean very little, however if you are happy then so be it.

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Don't listen, do you kev? Come over as a bit of an idiot on this one. Rolling road figures really mean very little, however if you are happy then so be it.


I'm happy thanksThumbs up

Any of the experts on here are welcome to drive my car and see what they thinkBig grin

If it was just my car on the rollers I agree figures can be misleading/alot different from one set of rollers to another.
But it was on a rolling road day with a few Gti6's to compare to,so if my inlet was affecting my car in a bad/loosing power way it would have showed up against similar cars on the daySmile

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Post #105
And as I said, you'd never tell ANYTHING on the rollers as you don't have enough airflow to generate the ram air effect to anything that would ever show up on a dyno.

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out of all those results, the one that stands out for me is madproffessors 2.2 onyl making 191hp???

Really?
You can get that will cams? I'd have thought that it must make some decent torque to make up for it?

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Posted 5th Dec 2012 at 12:40
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daver6 wrote:
stan_306gti6 wrote:
eliotrw wrote:
When you say de resonated, do you mean the bit on the side of the actaul box if gone,
Or have you remove the hemzoltz thing on the inlet?


He means the resonator on the side of the airbox not the bit under the manifold. Wink


^^ This

I have actually made a bung for the manifold, but it's only my spare mani. Can't really be bothered to fit it


I may have asked you this before, But did you weld it shut or have you made something to blank it off?

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Post #108
Iirc correctly they are a small threaded bung mate

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Posted 5th Dec 2012 at 13:57
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Yes, they are a bung which you use to blank it off if you wish to remove the Helmholtz resonator. Yes

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Posted 5th Dec 2012 at 14:02
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Where on about the airbox though.
Not the inlet

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Posted 5th Dec 2012 at 14:03
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Ah I see, I thought you were talking about the bung underneath the manifold. Doh

Not sure what people use to block off the airbox, probably fabricate something I would imagine.

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Oh I thought the same as stan, no idea I'm afraid Dunno

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Post #113
eliotrw wrote:
out of all those results, the one that stands out for me is madproffessors 2.2 onyl making 191hp???

Really?
You can get that will cams? I'd have thought that it must make some decent torque to make up for it?


there were serious issues with that engine, namely the piston suppliers making a right royal f**kup with the design and ending up with 13-1. compression, suffice to say the replacement 2.2 will be about 75 bhp up on that roughly.

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Post #114
Reason I ask is my vent thing is not fully on, and I cant easily seem to line it up again.
So i fugured it just slap something ove rthe hole and take it off.

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Posted 5th Dec 2012 at 14:15
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Post #115
stan_306gti6 wrote:
Ah I see, I thought you were talking about the bung underneath the manifold. Doh

Not sure what people use to block off the airbox, probably fabricate something I would imagine.
The 2 I've have had a turned bung welded in. Wink

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welshpug! wrote:
eliotrw wrote:
out of all those results, the one that stands out for me is madproffessors 2.2 onyl making 191hp???

Really?
You can get that will cams? I'd have thought that it must make some decent torque to make up for it?


there were serious issues with that engine, namely the piston suppliers making a right royal f**kup with the design and ending up with 13-1. compression, suffice to say the replacement 2.2 will be about 75 bhp up on that roughly.


Was just going to say that, I can't wait for him to fit the fecking engine!!

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Post #117
This one's ringing alarm bells for me:

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Post #118
eliotrw wrote:
Where on about the airbox though.
Not the inlet


Like I said, I made bungs for each. Basically an aluminium top-hat affair with an o-ring to secure.

If you were to blank off the airbox resonator, you'd have to weld a plate in as the main 'box has a take off pipe, which connects to the resonator.

My bung basically sits in the end of the take off pipe where the resonator once was

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Posted 10th Dec 2012 at 20:12
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