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K&Ns are cotton 
Ramair ones are still paper then eh?
Didnt know that
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 eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Ramair ones are still paper then eh? Didnt know that |
 Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 23:53
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24seven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #77
eliotrw wrote: K&Ns are cotton Ramair ones are still paper then eh? Didnt know that  Well there you go. Try breathing through your mrs' tights and pretend it's a K&N, then try again through one of the grumble mags you've hidden under the bed and pretend it's stock.  ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 23:58
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #78
coskev wrote: Thats all well and good,very clever  But why out of the three types of intake I've used does my car drive better and create good power with it like this? Not that I'm really interested TBH cause I'll be leaving it as it is because it works A dyno fan is generating nothing like the airflow needed to prove ram air is working, you'd be lucky to see it on a chassis dyno as anything other than normal run variation, until the airflow over the entire car was in the 100-120mph+ range. It's not ram air. End of. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 00:14
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coskev
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phillipm wrote: coskev wrote: Thats all well and good,very clever But why out of the three types of intake I've used does my car drive better and create good power with it like this? Not that I'm really interested TBH cause I'll be leaving it as it is because it works A dyno fan is generating nothing like the airflow needed to prove ram air is working, you'd be lucky to see it on a chassis dyno as anything other than normal run variation, until the airflow over the entire car was in the 100-120mph+ range. It's not ram air. End of. My car runs/goes better with this set up.End of thanks ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 07:12
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #80
This is the best thread we've had in a while in engines.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 07:40
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swiftyboi006
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Post #81
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 07:43
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coskev
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Post #82
24seven wrote:  Though on a serious note, I hope you don't react like this when hearing your daughter "talk academically"... For her sake! No, luckily she has not got the 'knobby know-all' student attitude you have She realises in reality not everything written in a book works in the real world, which you obviously have not realised yet  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 08:56
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daver6
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Post #83
This is true, just like my concerns that the CDA airbox does f**k all except eat torque.My car feels far more responsive now that (admittedly broken) piece of carbon pap has been replaced with a de-resonated standard setup ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 11:39
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eliotrw
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Post #84
When you say de resonated, do you mean the bit on the side of the actaul box if gone,Or have you remove the hemzoltz thing on the inlet? ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 12:04
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #85
eliotrw wrote: When you say de resonated, do you mean the bit on the side of the actaul box if gone, Or have you remove the hemzoltz thing on the inlet? He means the resonator on the side of the airbox not the bit under the manifold. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 13:15
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #86
coskev wrote: My car runs/goes better with this set up.End of thanks My car felt faster the other day after it rained. Ergo, the rain must have added 10bhp! Can't have been anything else, like me taking the welder out of the boot, must have been the rain Prism7guy is making the same power as you with a standard scoop, so if he cuts it, I bet it'll get him 10 seconds off his laptime at the 'ring! ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 13:17
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #87
@ Phillipm!________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 13:59
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #88
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 17:23
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #89
coskev wrote: 24seven wrote: Though on a serious note, I hope you don't react like this when hearing your daughter "talk academically"... For her sake! No, luckily she has not got the 'knobby know-all' student attitude you have She realises in reality not everything written in a book works in the real world, which you obviously have not realised yet I genuinely audibly laughed at the "knobby attitude" part. I'm sorry but from you, that really is quite funny. Have you heard of the "placebo effect" at all? Just because it's your "handiwork" you "feel" like it's making a difference. I'm telling you, Phillipm is telling you and if you ask anyone who's ever done any real or "on paper" work on aerodynamics will tell you that you are quite simply wrong. I must admit though a p[art of me is beginning to feel a bit daft for continuing to reply to you. Your commitment to being ignorant and stubborn is really quite something so I'm not sure if you really are that retarded or if you're just bored and on the wind-up. Either way I think you've made your "point" so I've nothing else to add to this thread, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt (see, I'm nice like that) and say bravo - you got me. But just in case, folks, avoid any "performance advice" you see written by this chap, or at the very least think about what he's saying before you go ruining your cars. phillipm wrote: coskev wrote: My car runs/goes better with this set up.End of thanks My car felt faster the other day after it rained. Ergo, the rain must have added 10bhp! Can't have been anything else, like me taking the welder out of the boot, must have been the rain Prism7guy is making the same power as you with a standard scoop, so if he cuts it, I bet it'll get him 10 seconds off his laptime at the 'ring! The full Nordschleife is pretty long you know (that said I've never been there myself, but I've read that it's 14 miles long so in the real world it's probably only a few yards) so over a whole lap all those extra ponies must add up to at least a few minutes, surely! ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 21:20
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playboyb
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
Post #90
This is awesome! Gotta love this forum! ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 21:33
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #91
24seven wrote: coskev wrote: 24seven wrote: Though on a serious note, I hope you don't react like this when hearing your daughter "talk academically"... For her sake! No, luckily she has not got the 'knobby know-all' student attitude you have She realises in reality not everything written in a book works in the real world, which you obviously have not realised yet I genuinely audibly laughed at the "knobby attitude" part. I'm sorry but from you, that really is quite funny. Have you heard of the "placebo effect" at all? Just because it's your "handiwork" you "feel" like it's making a difference. I'm telling you, Phillipm is telling you and if you ask anyone who's ever done any real or "on paper" work on aerodynamics will tell you that you are quite simply wrong. I must admit though a p[art of me is beginning to feel a bit daft for continuing to reply to you. Your commitment to being ignorant and stubborn is really quite something so I'm not sure if you really are that retarded or if you're just bored and on the wind-up. Either way I think you've made your "point" so I've nothing else to add to this thread, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt (see, I'm nice like that) and say bravo - you got me. But just in case, folks, avoid any "performance advice" you see written by this chap, or at the very least think about what he's saying before you go ruining your cars. Ruining a car I might scrape the paint off my bonnet at the weekend in a chequer shape and let it rust,ring any bells dopey? I'm glad your not going to reply again,cause your like a broken record with your student attitude PS,have fun stacking the shelves in Sainsburys Einstein Oh yeah,and I'm leaving the intake as it is thanks just to make that clear ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 22:02
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playboyb
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
Post #92
So having the air feed at the bottom of the bumper is bad? ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 22:06
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #93
yes, puddles at the bottom of the bumper.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 22:09
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #94
I think having air is bad  ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 22:10
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playboyb
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Post #95
I mean for air intake mate, is it having a negative effect? To be fair I'm getting a standard box and pipes so will test both but I'm interested to know if having the intake lower is bad for intake?________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 22:11
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stilly
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Post #96
air is colder the nearer the ground as warm air raises.. ________________________________________ deaf in 1 eye blind in 1 ear ......307 136bhp daily drive..... 306 rallye stripped out and charged..... lee_gti6 also known as "the tit"..... stan_306gti6 also known as "stan the dick"....... |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 22:25
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playboyb
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Post #97
Even when your giving it beans? Surely will make some sort of Venturi effect? ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 22:28
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stan_306gti6
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Post #98
playboyb wrote: Even when your giving it beans? Surely will make some sort of Venturi effect? What on Earth has the "Venturi effect' got to do with how low the air intake is? That comes about where air is forced through a smaller hole and picks up speed and loses pressure... ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 22:50
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playboyb
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Post #99
Oh! ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 22:51
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #100
What about one of them fake front mount intercooler air filters are they any good?? |
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