Post #51
Here's one of mine
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 welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Here's one of mine Bring on the Trumpets. |
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rikky
Pikey Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,797 Status: Offline |
Post #52
looks standard to me  ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 17:45
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #53
welshpug! wrote: Here's one of mine Excellent! ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 18:55
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24seven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #54
That's such a p**s-poor bodge of a job Mei. It's not even finished! ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 19:09
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #55
Wont make it go any faster with no injectors thats for sure________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 19:11
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #56
They're underneath  rad left out for mega ram air effect  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 19:12
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blandy
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #57
are you going to run a filter with your bodies? got same set up soon to go on my rallye but gotta get a filter squeezed in which is going to be fun |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 19:19
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rikky
Pikey Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,797 Status: Offline |
Post #58
why are the injectors underneath? clearance or something? or suparpowarrr?________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 19:21
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eliotrw
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Post #59
I guess the hole is blanked off then  ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 19:23
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #60
yes will have filter, yes injectors underneath for clearance. this manifold I wont be using though as it doesn't fit in the ZX under the bonnet with a filter, might fit a 306 though. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 19:30
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #61
aaron6 wrote: I maintain that the best all round set up is the standard set up with a modified airbox running a decent filter. You don't have to worry about puddles, it sounds reasonable and gives a good sharp throttle response. I've tried and seen lots of different methods and for my liking this is the best all rounder. Don't let the resident airflow expert 24seven see you write that!!!!!  No way does it work better,he worked it out on a piece of A4 between breaks of learning his 9 times table you know.........  I'll say it again,it does not work on paper!  welshpug! wrote: yes will have filter, yes injectors underneath for clearance. this manifold I wont be using though as it doesn't fit in the ZX under the bonnet with a filter, might fit a 306 though. You NEED to have a 306 standard snorkel piped into them to get the max performance out of that set up  No way will you gain anything having nice cold air going straight into those TB's and into your engine  I've been converted by 24seven the air intake expert  (on paper he is anyway) ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 20:40
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #62
coskev wrote: grumpy old man ramblings 24seven wrote: For best performance, leave the standard air box in place if you're using the standard manifold. If it's just the noise you want, do whatever. Forget to put on your reading glasses? ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 20:49
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rikky
Pikey Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,797 Status: Offline |
Post #63
love this thread!________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 20:50
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #64
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 21:17
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woody.
Senior User  Location: London Registered: 18 May 2009 Posts: 799 Status: Offline |
Post #65
LOL at this thread. Tbh, I highly doubt the 'ram air' style thing makes any noticable difference to the standard setup?Oops almost forgot to put IMO!! |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 21:29
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #66
You've moved the intake from the postion of high static pressure (low airspeed due to blocking from the radiator and cowling), to an area of low static pressure (high airspeed due to venturi effect between bonnet and slam panel)That's not ram air, that's exactly the opposite in fact. Where's the 'FAIL' smiley when you need it? ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 21:36
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rikky
Pikey Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,797 Status: Offline |
Post #67
... thus I propose we declare this phenomenon "gay air"  ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 21:39
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #68
phillipm wrote: You've moved the intake from the postion of high static pressure (low airspeed due to blocking from the radiator and cowling), to an area of low static pressure (high airspeed due to venturi effect between bonnet and slam panel) That's not ram air, that's exactly the opposite in fact. Where's the 'FAIL' smiley when you need it? Thats all well and good,very clever But why out of the three types of intake I've used does my car drive better and create good power with it like this? Not that I'm really interested TBH cause I'll be leaving it as it is because it works ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 22:35
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #69
24seven wrote: coskev wrote: grumpy old man ramblings 24seven wrote: For best performance, leave the standard air box in place if you're using the standard manifold. If it's just the noise you want, do whatever. Forget to put on your reading glasses? Finished your homework early chav? ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 22:36
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #70
Though on a serious note, I hope you don't react like this when hearing your daughter "talk academically"... For her sake! ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 22:38
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dan86
Senior User  Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #71
Wouldn't the surface area of a cone filter in the standard airbox be less (causing more of a restriction) than a performance filter that fits full length inside the airbox? ________________________________________ |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 23:06
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #72
dan86 wrote: Wouldn't the surface area of a cone filter in the standard airbox be less (causing more of a restriction) than a performance filter that fits full length inside the airbox? Think of it like this. If you pull your jumper sleeve over your mouth and try to breathe through it, you can feel the restriction through the thicker material. Now go into your mrs' drawer and do the same thing through a pair of her tights.The idea with cone filters is that you trade off having poorer filtration (and thus dirtier air going into the engine) in exchange for easier breathing. That's the reason standard panel filters are so much bigger and have so much more surface area than aftermarket cone filters - the holes the air passes through are smaller so you need more holes to flow the same volume of air = bigger filter. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 23:14
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playboyb
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
Post #73
I'm so happy I started this thread ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 23:17
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #74
24seven wrote: dan86 wrote: Wouldn't the surface area of a cone filter in the standard airbox be less (causing more of a restriction) than a performance filter that fits full length inside the airbox? Think of it like this. If you pull your jumper sleeve over your mouth and try to breathe through it, you can feel the restriction through the thicker material. Now go into your mrs' drawer and do the same thing through a pair of her tights.The idea with cone filters is that you trade off having poorer filtration (and thus dirtier air going into the engine) in exchange for easier breathing. That's the reason standard panel filters are so much bigger and have so much more surface area than aftermarket cone filters - the holes the air passes through are smaller so you need more holes to flow the same volume of air = bigger filter. My Mrs just walked in on me nestling my face into her tights and inhaling heavily... Awkward! Do K&N use a different filtration material on their cone filters than their direct replacement filters? The reason I ask is because in my opinion a cone filter that is small enough to fit in the airbox must have a smaller surface area than a direct replacement. (Comparing cone and direct fit performance filters made from the same filter material) ________________________________________ |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 23:31
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #75
They're both the same type of filter with a paper medium, whereas something like a pipercross uses foam. The K&N will have a coarser "print" in it allowing more air through, but they have a light oil soaked into them to help trap the fine particles that wouldn't normally get through, hence you can wash and re-oil them. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 23:42
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