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Carl Chambers

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Thought I would start a thread on this as Im now getting it ready to race for next year.

After a track day earlier this year it started to smoke badly, so bad that they black flagged me in the end!

so it was out with the engine for a strip down,

with the engine on the floor it looks nothing special, just like a standard GTi-6 engine!

the head was taken off to find lots of play in the pistons! Number 1 rings were gone and head gasket had also gone between 1 and 2 aswell as 3 and 4 cylinders so no wonder it was smoking!

sump taken off and a really nice bottom end was found!

engine haas now been taken to a local race engine builder to have rings, pistons and bores sorted out.

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Posted 11th Nov 2012 at 17:31

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Carl Chambers

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It was then decided to do away with the old and complicated ecu and dash, and fit omwx with jenvys, aswell as removing lots of stuff which is no longer needed in the race series we will be running in order to try and keep the wieght down.

so air jack system is now out, although I loved them they are quite heavy and just not needed!

lots of carbon parts,

most will go back in but the floor trays may not as again they are just not needed, plus the are fairly heavy being as they are lined with kevlar!

all dash wiring and engine wiring out

found a touring car spec hair dryer behind the dash! not really sure why it was there, in behind the dash display?

looking a bit bare now!

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Posted 11th Nov 2012 at 17:32

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Carl Chambers

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As jenvys are going I decided to try to copy a 306 maxi air intake system,

so a spare front panel and grille was cut down to allow the air intake to go straight into the jenvys

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Posted 11th Nov 2012 at 17:32

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blandy

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Post #4

loving the intake been trying to modify mine in a similar way allthough doesnt look half as good as yours.

look forward to seeing the progress

Posted 11th Nov 2012 at 17:48

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hovis16

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looking good

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Posted 11th Nov 2012 at 19:14

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pugheaven

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Any carbon panels that your not using I may be intrested in!

Posted 11th Nov 2012 at 19:28

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pugheaven

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Ps I might be able to get you a carbon btcc intake for the bodies if your after one

Posted 11th Nov 2012 at 19:31

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p1234

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Would the hair dryer maybe have been a make shift window di-mister?

Posted 12th Nov 2012 at 18:32

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Carl Chambers

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pugheaven wrote:

Any carbon panels that your not using I may be intrested in!

not yet

pugheaven wrote:

Ps I might be able to get you a carbon btcc intake for the bodies if your after one

let me know if you can and some pics and price please

p1234 wrote:

Would the hair dryer maybe have been a make shift window di-mister?

I thought that at first but where it was mounted it was not able to get to the screen?

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Posted 12th Nov 2012 at 20:32

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welshpug!

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maybe to warm feet up? LOL

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Posted 12th Nov 2012 at 20:36

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Or dry the feet on those wet days to avoid slippy pedals!!

Best of luck with the 're model, cracking car!

Posted 12th Nov 2012 at 22:01

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Or dry the feet on those wet days to avoid slippy pedals!!

Best of luck with the 're model, cracking car!

Posted 12th Nov 2012 at 22:49

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If you're ever at Brands let me know and I'll pop over (even trackdays / testing etc). Might be able to get trackside and grab some photos for you as well.

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Posted 12th Nov 2012 at 22:51

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Carl Chambers

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demondriverdan wrote:

If you're ever at Brands let me know and I'll pop over (even trackdays / testing etc). Might be able to get trackside and grab some photos for you as well.

yeah the CSCC will race at Brands next year as they always do, as soon as the dates are published I will let you know.

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Posted 12th Nov 2012 at 22:55

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Carl Chambers wrote:

demondriverdan wrote:

If you're ever at Brands let me know and I'll pop over (even trackdays / testing etc). Might be able to get trackside and grab some photos for you as well.

yeah the CSCC will race at Brands next year as they always do, as soon as the dates are published I will let you know.

Cool beans, I'll be there (unless I'm in Newcastle, but I'll still try)

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Posted 12th Nov 2012 at 22:57

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306 Rxs

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Can you tell me the camber/toe values of your rear axle??

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Posted 13th Nov 2012 at 11:55

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looking good.

how have you modified the slam panel? have you just cut away the top skin?

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Posted 13th Nov 2012 at 19:19

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Carl Chambers

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306 Rxs wrote:

Can you tell me the camber/toe values of your rear axle??

I know the rear camber is 3 degrees not sure off hand what the rear toe is but will find out for you

clen666 wrote:

looking good.

how have you modified the slam panel? have you just cut away the top skin?

thanks

the front panel was cut either side inside the headlamps, and re-welded back together lower down, and the middle par is 3 front panels cut up to get a straight flap piece without the bonnet catch and then all weled together!

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Posted 13th Nov 2012 at 20:45

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Damn, didn't think it would be as simple as I'd hoped!

Looks like a good job on it though, I'll try and do something similar as I like the increased air flow you will get

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Posted 13th Nov 2012 at 20:50

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pete_rallye

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Rear camber and toe is adjustable so there are no fixed settings. Probably best to find somewhere that works for you and leave it at that, rather than alter for different circuits. Apparently they used to run upto 6mm toe out at the rear to get the slicks up to temp and to aid turn in. I imagine it was quite scary to drive though!

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Posted 13th Nov 2012 at 21:13

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306 Rxs

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I'm now making a new part for the rear axle, but the my doubt is "do i make it adjustable or not?". If i had some reference values, it could help me decide.

I always prefered to drive with the rear, but using more than toe =0, is out of my track experiences.
The first time i drove a zx 16v with 0 toe, the impression was quite good.

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Posted 13th Nov 2012 at 23:29

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306 Rxs wrote:

Do you know what toe the 6 beam runs as standard?

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Posted 13th Nov 2012 at 23:39

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Yes...i have the list of camber/toe for all the zx and 306. Wink

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Posted 13th Nov 2012 at 23:47

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year..............Make..............Model......... ..........Variant...............................Toe..........Camber (degrees/minutes)
85 - 92..........Peugeot..........205.................. .....1.6 GTI, 1.9 GTI, Rallye.......3.6...........0.5
85 - 92..........Peugeot..........205 / 309..............Base............................. ......3.1..........0.5
93 -->...........Peugeot..........205................... ....Cab, Van, Base....................3.4..........0.5
86 - 90..........Peugeot..........309.................. .....GTI.....................................3.8.. .......0.5
90 - 93..........Peugeot..........309.................. .....GTI, GTI16..........................5............1.15
94 -->...........Peugeot..........306................... ....S16, GTI-6..........................4.2..........1.2
97 -->...........Peugeot..........306................... ....1.8 16v...............................3.4..........1.2
98 -->...........Citroen...........Xsara................ ....Base...................................4.5.... ......1.2
98 -->...........Citroen...........Xsara................ ....VTS.....................................5..... .......1.2
93 -->...........Citroen...........ZX................... ......Base, 16v............................0.............1

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Posted 13th Nov 2012 at 23:55

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pete_rallye

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First time I drove with zx rear arms with 0 toe i did this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRx0r3KxY_o

Didn't honestly notice a great change in turn in but did notice it was much harder to get the car under control again if the rear end stepped out! Although the crash was mainly thanks to wet grass, or thats my excuse anyway...

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Posted 14th Nov 2012 at 20:39

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