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 jammapic
Senior User  Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #151
If it uses the stock ecu, the answer is yes I expect. Give him a call on 07874328306.________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
 Posted 14th Dec 2013 at 19:30
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markylee
Regular  Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
Post #152
Hi mate which cat cams did you use and did you need to change the cam pulleys |
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Posted 14th Dec 2013 at 21:05
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #153
Cat cams 106s. No, I didn't. ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 14th Dec 2013 at 21:07
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
Post #154
How much did pug1off charge to supply and fit |
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Posted 14th Dec 2013 at 21:26
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #155
Best of asking them what they charge for supply and fitting. ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 14th Dec 2013 at 21:28
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
Post #156
sorry mate, one last question, have you pocketed your pistons with them cams and has your head been skimmed |
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Posted 14th Dec 2013 at 21:31
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #157
No, and no. ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 14th Dec 2013 at 21:38
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #158
What catcams are you running mate? Also are you running stock injectors too? Will need to speak to wayne soon to have mine mapped again as the map on mine with the cat cams in isnt too good to be honest, seems to be running rich too. Also have my VLR BTCC inlet to fit so hopefully the map you have on yours may be good to run on mine ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 1st Feb 2014 at 20:13
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #159
Mines on throttle bodies mate - totally different map, he may be able to use bits of it though. Definitely get on to him - and let me know when you are down there and I'll come say hey! JP ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 1st Feb 2014 at 20:15
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #160
Will do, hopefully be around mid march as I have a few other bits and bobs to sort out before mani can go on________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 1st Feb 2014 at 21:19
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #161
OK... so....Got the car out of the mates' workshop, finished mapping it (227hp and 170lbft), then promptly MOT'd it and put it back on the ramp again. Lol. Fitted a set of KSport adjustable coilovers, then stuck it on the Geo machine, setup camber, castor, toe etc before giving it a full corner weighting setup:  Finished fitting my electric PAS setup:  Also fitted solid engine mounts, solid rear beam mounts and sorted a few knocks and rattles from the suspension... then, finally... BROUGHT IT HOME!  We've lived in our new house since October, and this is the first time I've actually parked it on the drive here. The drive home from the workshop was amazing. Was a little ginger with it at first, given it's been sat for a while... but when I did give it the beans, my god - it's quick. Corner weighting the car showed up a few weaknesses, like the fact that 66% of the cars weight is at the front, and only 34% is at the back. However, cross axle is next to perfect. Also, with half a tank of (stale) fuel, and a load of spare parts inside, the car weighs in at 984kg. I reckon without all the spare manifolds, spare wheels etc inside, it would probably be pretty damn close to 960kg. Got the love back? Hell yeah. Watch this space! JP ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 6th May 2014 at 22:03
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #162
200 lbft?! ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 23rd Apr 2014 at 07:37
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mcvite
Regular  Location: basingstoke Registered: 23 May 2012 Posts: 303 Status: Offline |
Post #163
Very nice mate,well done ________________________________________ http://s1160.photobucket.com/albums/q486/mcvite/ |
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Posted 23rd Apr 2014 at 15:30
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #164
What's the spec of the engine now jamma? I know r/r figures are nothing to go by but 200lbft is a hell of a lot of torque for a 1998cc 6! ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 23rd Apr 2014 at 18:28
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #165
Cat 106's running retarded in a skimmed head stock pistons and a load of bullpoop  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 23rd Apr 2014 at 19:03
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dcc
Senior User  Location: Wales Registered: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 502 Status: Offline |
Post #166
so these figures you have, where exactly have you plucked them from? Hillary us.________________________________________ 205 GTIXsara HDI |
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Posted 6th May 2014 at 21:49
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #167
It's not 200lbft, I was wrong. It's just a touch over 170lbft, through the midrange and 226hp at 7000rpm, without much point revving it past that despite an 8000rpm rev limit. I do think the dyno is a touch optimistic, however it is a fully calibrated Bosch unit. Car has staggered inlet trumpets, some light headwork, total seal rings, arp rod bolts and acl main bearings. JP ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 6th May 2014 at 22:02
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dcc
Senior User Location: Wales Registered: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 502 Status: Offline |
Post #168
Why staggered? surely thats not going to help the balance of the cylinder power?Good job on getting those total seal rings to work though! ________________________________________ 205 GTIXsara HDI |
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Posted 6th May 2014 at 22:09
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #169
dcc wrote: Why staggered? surely thats not going to help the balance of the cylinder power? Good job on getting those total seal rings to work though! It's something to do with resonant frequencies affecting the inlet pulses or something, Pete Rallye had staggered trumpets on his btcc iirc... ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!!  |
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Posted 6th May 2014 at 22:15
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #170
Moves the resonance in the torque curve out of phase to smooth it out. Read about organ pipe tuning....I'll get the dyno plots if you like. You'll see one set of resonance for one set of trumpets, another resonance for another set, and then a third, smoothed torque curve for a mixture of both. JP ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 6th May 2014 at 22:18
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #171
but how do you get the fuelling correct on all 4 cylinders without spending thousands on an ecu and fitting 4 wideband sensors?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th May 2014 at 22:32
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
Post #172
Surely having varied trumpet lengths isn't changing the mass flow rate of air being drawn in, hence no need for varied fuelling on different cylinders, it is just preventing the air induction for all four cylinders from resonating at once.________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 6th May 2014 at 23:10
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dcc
Senior User Location: Wales Registered: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 502 Status: Offline |
Post #173
It does exactly what you think it isnt.can't help but think each cylinder is not working in balance with the others. ________________________________________ 205 GTIXsara HDI |
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Posted 6th May 2014 at 23:27
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #174
227hp! You'd be lucky!Mines making that power with an 88mm steel crank, steel rods, 87mm forged pistons (2088cc), cat cam 109's, mild headwork from Sandy, Jenvey DCOE's, Colin/sandy long inlet manifold, 8 injectors, DTA E48 ecu, maniflow works exhaust manifold, 2.5' system, dry sump etc ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 6th May 2014 at 23:28
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #175
In his defence there was something in PPC a little while back on walkers workshop about varied length trumpets and testing it all________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 6th May 2014 at 23:30
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