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daveyboy

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Post #51
Thanks for your concern, but I don't do much painting, I'll take my chances, but if I have to do more I will invest in a decent mask. Only get one set of lungs.

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Posted 24th Nov 2012 at 21:18
owain

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Post #52
I'd strongly recommend you do if you're planning on doing much more, I read some real nasty horror stories about people who worked it for years without masks and ended up coughing and spluttering the rest of their lives and could barely walk again, granted they did it as a full-time job.

Do be careful with it, don't really have the time to try and recruit a new forum welder.

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Posted 24th Nov 2012 at 21:22
miles

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Post #53
It will have more hours spent on it than a new one, Cost more too

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Posted 24th Nov 2012 at 21:23
daveyboy

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Post #54
Haha, I do try to be careful with stuff like that, I have a friend who's a sprayer, he's a bit older than me at forty two but his health is terrible, and he has this constant thing where it's like he's doing little coughs to clear his throat but can never manage it. f**k that for the rest of your life, mind you he smokes twenty Bensons a day so he can't be that fussed about his lungs.

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Posted 24th Nov 2012 at 21:48
daveyboy

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Post #55
miles wrote:
It will have more hours spent on it than a new one, Cost more too


Don't want a new one, they're s**te.

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Posted 24th Nov 2012 at 21:51
owain

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Post #56
daveyboy wrote:
I have a friend who's a sprayer, he's a bit older than me at forty two but his health is terrible, and he has this constant thing where it's like he's doing little coughs to clear his throat but can never manage it. f**k that for the rest of your life


Yup, that's what it'll do to you. You make sure you're more careful than that, I'd hate to hear you'd died before I had the money to get various welding jobs done by you.

Still, your van will look the nuts.

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Posted 24th Nov 2012 at 22:51
daveyboy

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Post #57
Hah, I'll try to cling to life for a few more years then, just in case like? LOL

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Posted 24th Nov 2012 at 23:00
phillipm

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Post #58
Welding fumes are bad enough, n'mind spraying fumes too.

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Posted 24th Nov 2012 at 23:03
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Post #59
Is this the beast i saw when you were giving my 6 the top engine mount love???

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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 01:31
MCH_GTi6

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Post #60
owain wrote:
Well you're a big boy and I'm sure you know the risks, wouldn't get me going anywhere near it though. Just not worth the risk IMO.


There used to be a bloke round this way who sprayed that stuff with no mask and 9 times out of 10 a filthy roll up hanging off his bottom lip LOL

He was getting on a bit last time I saw him so poss dead by now

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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 01:58
miles

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New ones are yes, the first of the newer shape (Y reg ish) seem to fair OK from what I;ve seen next door, Engine's are Poo thou but easy to work on I will give them that

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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 01:58
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Post #62
Didn't these come pre-rusted from Ford? Laugh

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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 08:01
owain

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Post #63
MCH_GTi6 wrote:
He was getting on a bit last time I saw him so poss dead by now


Almost certainly, plus the wrinkle decrepit old bas**rd was actually only 28.

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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 09:12
davewagon

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Post #64
I've just read that 2 pack paint contains isocyanates which can be absorbed through your f**king eyes and skin!

Balls to that, I'd want a full on suit, let alone mask

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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 09:31
owain

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Post #65
Yup, if you do it on a daily basis (and if you stick to the legal requirements, i.e. you're a pro body shop) then you have full body suits, sealed and with full clean-air masks pumping air from outside. You're also not allowed to do it in residential areas because the fumes have to go somewhere, it's very strict where you're even allowed to do it, you can't just have an extractor fan out the back into some other guy's car park.

A lot of places I saw (I had a proper read up on this once) won't even allow their staff to have beards, as it stops the masks sealing properly - clean shaven only so the rubber seals can make proper contact with your face.

I know health & safety can be a bit out of hand at times, but 2-pack paints are a place I think they're pretty justified. I read enough to decide I was never interested in using it, I'd use a basic cellulose (?) paint and just suffer the fact that it wouldn't last as long, because at least I'd be alive to see it.

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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 09:35
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Post #66
This is coming on nicely, looking forward to seeing the finished result.

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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 10:33
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Post #67
mattgti6phase2 wrote:
Is this the beast i saw when you were giving my 6 the top engine mount love???


Certainly is Smile

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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 11:50
daveyboy

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Post #68
Prepping the other door has gone much the same, the usual crack in the corner where the quarter light meets the door skin. I decided to repair this one a bit differently as I got a bit too much distortion with the patch method leaving me with a fair bit of filling & sanding to do (which I hate)

Cleaned up, end of crack found and drilled to stop it getting bigger...



Then four holes drilled ready for plug welding and the rusted part of the split was sawn out...



Then I knocked up a patch, curved it and put on a bit of weld thru primer to hold off the tin worm as long as possible...



Next I offered it up, marked it and used a Cleco clip to hold it in place so I could weld it in...



Weldy, weldy, blah blah blah...





Forgot to photograph the dressing down the welds and filling bit but you get the idea.

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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 16:02
daveyboy

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Post #69
Filled...



Primed...

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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 20:08
daveyboy

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Post #70
tvrfan007 wrote:
Didn't these come pre-rusted from Ford? Laugh


They actually did! Some body shells were moved from different locations in the factory while still in bare metal however they would get rained on while they were moving them about, letting the rust begin. Also they didn't always degrease the panels inside the cabs, we've had them rot out the whole inside of the roof because all the pain has fallen off behind the headlining! Sloppy c**ts!

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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 20:14
owain

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Post #71
Mate those are some impressive skills you have there, fair play. I shall learn to weld one day, tried once when I was about ten and from what I remember I was not great.

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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 22:38
daveyboy

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Thank you, migs pretty easy if you have a half decent set and good eyesight. The other disciplines require more skill and practice to master. I'd say prep and cleanliness are the most important factors in achieving a good result.

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Posted 26th Nov 2012 at 01:03
tvrfan007

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Post #73
daveyboy wrote:
tvrfan007 wrote:
Didn't these come pre-rusted from Ford? Laugh


They actually did! Some body shells were moved from different locations in the factory while still in bare metal however they would get rained on while they were moving them about, letting the rust begin. Also they didn't always degrease the panels inside the cabs, we've had them rot out the whole inside of the roof because all the pain has fallen off behind the headlining! Sloppy c**ts!


Hah quality Ford build. I always used to wonder when riding to school how a 3 year old Transit had rust-eaten corners missing off the rear doors as they passed me on the bike lol.

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Posted 26th Nov 2012 at 07:09
gilesy

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Post #74
daveyboy wrote:
Doors painted in Barcoat primer as there was some weird paint on there that I didn't want to react.



An entire door made out of Caramac? To be fair it looks like it would last longer than the steel ford used previously
Posted 26th Nov 2012 at 08:33
daveyboy

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Post #75
Yum, I thought it looked like mustard myself Wink

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Posted 26th Nov 2012 at 08:40

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