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daveyboy

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Post #101
Once you are no longer traction limited, then low boost will p**s all over a standard six. I would have to say Aaron that if you are managing to stay in touch with a LB6 then the LB6 is'nt being driven to the best of it's ability or you are picking roads where lack of grip robs it of it's advantage. To be honest (quite rightly) most people don't tend to commit fully on the road, try following an LB6 round a track, you will be served your own arse for breakfast, lunch and tea. Unless it's Stanleen driving in which case it will be stationary and easy meat for your nat/asp 6.

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 18:22
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Post #102
Are you talking about the Leeds castle dogbone with lee, Aaron? It was wet that night and I can tell you lb6 in the wet arnt great.
There is no doubt that they are quicker than standard, there more powerful so anyone who says different is a spaz, especially in the higher rev ranges!

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 18:27
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Post #103
daveyboy wrote:
Once you are no longer traction limited, then low boost will p**s all over a standard six. I would have to say Aaron that if you are managing to stay in touch with a LB6 then the LB6 is'nt being driven to the best of it's ability or you are picking roads where lack of grip robs it of it's advantage. To be honest (quite rightly) most people don't tend to commit fully on the road, try following an LB6 round a track, you will be served your own arse for breakfast, lunch and tea. Unless it's Stanleen driving in which case it will be stationary and easy meat for your nat/asp 6.



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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 18:35
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x69 rgg

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Post #104
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In standard form a mk4 r32 would not be equal with a low boost from a rolling start, they weigh about 1500kilos and have 240bhp with 236lb ft they also do 0-100 in about 15secs. A low boost would be quicker than that. But as said an r32 would hold it's value more <B>and is a much better built car than a 12 year old 306.</B>


sorry mate but that is a load of bull. I own a 306 and a mk4 golf and can tell anyone who asks what car id rather drive based on reliability and it aint a golf. VW are not the almighty people percieve them to be. bmw or audi is where im going next if i have to buy german. pug may have its little gremlins but its never truly let me down. the golf on the other hand nearly ruined me this summer with its countless problems. gotta wonder why i still own the bloody thing!!!Crazy

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 20:07
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Post #105
oh and Rob, if you're looking for something to blow your wad on Id highly recommend one of these

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 20:08
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eliotrw

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Post #106
Too follow on from what x69 said about reliablity, I'm personally of the opinion that VW are a company that live of a reputation they quite rightly gained in the late 80's early 90's and then built a load of s**t quality cars and know one noticed.
The MK4 golf my friend has is a complete piece of s**t, has done barely half the miles the 6 has done, while being 4 years its junior.
Drives it like a granny too and its only a 1.6

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 20:23
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lukecus

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x69 rgg wrote:
lukecus wrote:
In standard form a mk4 r32 would not be equal with a low boost from a rolling start, they weigh about 1500kilos and have 240bhp with 236lb ft they also do 0-100 in about 15secs. A low boost would be quicker than that. But as said an r32 would hold it's value more <B>and is a much better built car than a 12 year old 306.</B>


sorry mate but that is a load of bull. I own a 306 and a mk4 golf and can tell anyone who asks what car id rather drive based on reliability and it aint a golf. VW are not the almighty people percieve them to be. bmw or audi is where im going next if i have to buy german. pug may have its little gremlins but its never truly let me down. the golf on the other hand nearly ruined me this summer with its countless problems. gotta wonder why i still own the bloody thing!!!Crazy




What's a load of bull? I never said the golf was more reliable I just said it's a better built car than a 306.

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 20:56
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Post #108
playboyb wrote:
Are you talking about the Leeds castle dogbone with lee, Aaron? It was wet that night and I can tell you lb6 in the wet arnt great.
There is no doubt that they are quicker than standard, there more powerful so anyone who says different is a spaz, especially in the higher rev ranges!
That and playing with your good self.

As you said though, it's quite a bit quicker than a standard one.

All I'm saying is that a standard 6 still holds its own very well. So well in fact that I would never be able to justify the extra money. That's kind of why I sold the scooby. It's cost too much and in my opinion wasn't worth it. As for track, I've only ever done Prescott hillclimb but done pretty well. I intend to do some tracks next year so will will be good to see how it does fair against a charged one there. It becomes a little charger biased in as much as usually they have bigger brakes and better suspension set up than what I have.

Ultimately it's all personal opinions anyways. I think a 6 feels best when it's running a standard lump as it so usable and good on its own. If I wanted a faster ride I'd buy an evo or tricked out scoob or dare I say it... an R32... LOL

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:10
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Post #109
so wat were saying is that basically for 6k you can get a slow modded french car or a slower standard german car???

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:12
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Eh? I never said either car was slow.

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:14
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the 2 cars are slower than many other cars for 6k fact! never said you said they were slow aaron but a lb s/c is damn slow and a bit gutless bugger all poke for alot of note!

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:17
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Post #112
fatlapit wrote:
the 2 cars are slower than many other cars for 6k fact! never said you said they were slow aaron but a lb s/c is damn slow and a bit gutless bugger all poke for alot of note!



Are you having a laugh? A low boost 6 on par with a 300bhp ford focus rs in terms of straight line performance!

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:20
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Post #113
5.5 0-60 0-100 in 12's is slow now?
f**k me, I better start saving for an enzo then...

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:21
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Post #114
Well that's true as you could go big turbo jap motors many sports saloons such as m3's etc. I personally would only buy a car with big power if it came out the factory like it. But hats off to the likes of lynx and even yourself for doing what you do. Smile

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:22
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Post #115
Who gives a flying f**k how quick it is in a straight line for a road car? If you're not racing it (and I don't mean trackdays), it has no relevance at all. The only thing that matters is it's fun to drive.

I know one thing, it doesn't matter where I go in the 1.4, I get out with a grin on my face. And that's slower than a fat kid walking past a donut shop.

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:24
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Post #116
a focus rs also weighs in at 1.5 ton so thats expected

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:25
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phillipm wrote:
Who gives a flying f**k how quick it is in a straight line for a road car? If you're not racing it (and I don't mean trackdays), it has no relevance at all. The only thing that matters is it's fun to drive.

I know one thing, it doesn't matter where I go in the 1.4, I get out with a grin on my face. And that's slower than a fat kid walking past a donut shop.


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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:26
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Post #118
To be honest philly I agree with you. What I disagree with is the statement that 5.5 0-60 and 0-100 in 12 ish is slow... Well its not is it lets be honest.
Given that the fastest production FWD car EVER does 0-60 in 5.6?
Ford Focus RS500.

And an E46 M3 does a 5.1 even though it has a RWD advantage.

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:28
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5.5 0-60 0-100 in 12's is slow now?
f**k me, I better start saving for an enzo then...

That seems very optimistic.

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:29
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Post #120
ah production wise its fast but modded with a 50% power increase like a lb s/c6 its not

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:30
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Post #121
aaron6 wrote:
eliotrw wrote:
5.5 0-60 0-100 in 12's is slow now?
f**k me, I better start saving for an enzo then...

That seems very optimistic.

Seems very proven too. Given that how many people have had them now?
Slow as f**k this one shessh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlU4tO2qD0Q

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:31
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Post #122
i heard the lb s/c 6 has a stalling problem though is this true??? also miles has one and the revs take ages to drop in between gear changes, is that common to all of them???

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:34
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Post #123
Thing is, now I'm not saying it ain't that. Its just that from a rolling start a lb6 running a very healthy hp figure was only level pegging my old impreza. Which from a standing start would defiantly get off the mark a lot quicker. Now I would never say it was any quicker than 5.5 to 60. I would think it's nearer to 6 tbh. Dunno

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:37
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eliotrw

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Post #124
The stalling thing can be mapped out of you have a bespoke map ( at 400 quid why not?)

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:37
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now lets be true a run of the mill impreza aint that quick either imo.

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 21:39
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