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Post #76
At the end of the day if I'm honest the r32 is a better car, but there newer than a 6 so why shouldn't they be? It makes a change to see a newer car that is actually well set up as standard instead of these 1.4 turbo pieces of s**te that they are producing nowadays.
For a car of its time the gti6 is a phenomenal drivers car, slap the s/c kit on and you've got a bit of a weapon, the r32 feels abit more refined and better built but that is its downfall, it's going to be heavier because its not made of paper mâché, so in comparison to a 6 a little bit less nimble in the bends.

Head to head I wouldn't want to call which is faster, from when I've been in gaz's r32 it feels very solid and handles quite nicely with alot of grip.
At the end of the day there both good cars and shouldn't really be compared against each other as try are two completely different cars.

Put it this way if I was gonna put 6k on something nowadays it would be towards a house lol

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 23:54
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Thanks to this thread I'm now £399 poorer after splashing out on a private plateDoh
It was the vid of the supercharged R32 that gave me the idea.....

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 00:58
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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 01:07
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No it's a private plate for my road car, I already have R9TRX for the RallyeWhistle

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 07:19
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Having gone from a supercharged 6 and a MK5 R32 to just owning the golf my thoughts are...

Performance wise the golf goes better, handles better and sounds better, I was always finding an excuse to take the golf out and leave the 6 at home. On top of that it’s easier to drive, comfier and looks a lot better. It is the better car in pretty much every way.

The fuel is horrendous and the tax is quite a bit but due to my limited mileage, it’s 5 years old and hasn’t done 28’000 yet, in it’s life hasn’t needed anything doing to it other than general servicing/ maintenance, I could be completely wrong but due to always finding something that could be done on the 6 to improve it or fix it the running costs are actually cheaper on the golf.

However there is something so awesome about a charged 6 that whenever my old one comes up for sale I keep thinking about buying it back. However I wouldn’t pay over £3k for one unless it was really special with low mileage

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 11:20
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Post #81
Comparing to a normal 6? Not a lb one?

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 11:43
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mattgti6phase2 wrote:
Comparing to a normal 6? Not a lb one?


mcfc1987 wrote:
Having gone from a supercharged 6 and a MK5 R32 to just owning the golf

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 11:52
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Post #83
eddiebeano wrote:
mattgti6phase2 wrote:
Comparing to a normal 6? Not a lb one?


mcfc1987 wrote:
Having gone from a supercharged 6 and a MK5 R32 to just owning the golf


LOL my bad

Still only 164bhp/tonne that's Clio 182 quick.

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 11:56
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How is it possible that a car which has the same power but weighs ~ 300kg more goes better Confused.

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 11:59
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How is it possible that a car which has the same power but weighs ~ 300kg more goes better Confused.


This is what i can't get my head around to. Finally someone on the same page.

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 12:01
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Post #86
Fair few comments about a LB6 not much faster than a standard six Unsure

Have these people been out in a charged six??

Off the mark and low speed acceleration, there probably aint that much in it, but when it gets going the charged six pulls a hell of a lot harder and eats up the revs, much quicker at naughty speeds Yes

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 12:05
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Yours is stripped isn't Chris? So near the 240bhp/tonne mark Superman

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 12:16
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mattgti6phase2 wrote:
Yours is stripped isn't Chris? So near the 240bhp/tonne mark Superman


It is yeah, but its got a 6 point cage in it, so probably not that much lighter than standard Laugh

And it was stripped before being charged, and still feels a lot quicker to me Yes

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 12:17
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Oh I get it it, no RoadD TAX right?


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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 12:19
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Post #90
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Fair few comments about a LB6 not much faster than a standard six Unsure

Have these people been out in a charged six??

Off the mark and low speed acceleration, there probably aint that much in it, but when it gets going the charged six pulls a hell of a lot harder and eats up the revs, much quicker at naughty speeds Yes


I have chased them a lot down this way. They are a fair bit quicker but not enough to get away or to warrant the outlay. And in my opinion they don't have enough torque.

As for the power to weight, I don't know how it works but Lee's lb6 was level pegging with my old impreza from a rolling start which had 250ish bhp but weighed a lot more. From a standing start I'm confident that it would have eaten it as it launched so well. But.. those 2 cars are totally different so shouldn't be up for comparison either.

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 13:10
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i know which car i would rather be in and it isn't the 306 LOL

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 13:41
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Not being funny you can bang on about not having enough torque etc etc all day long but a low boost has something like 83HP more than a six with around 60lbft torque on top and weighs pretty much exactly the same as it did before..
I'm pretty sure that warrants the outlay, You dont get a 50% increase in power for less do you...
Also if a low boost is set up well with a decent exhaust decat and decent intercooler + mapping you can get 260+ anyway so even more.

Besides your Scooby has proper all wheel drive that is always on and 50/50.
This R32 is 4wd about 5% of the time, The rest of the time 100% of the torque is going to the front wheels as it uses a haldex system which is frankly imo, not worth the extra weight and shouldn't even be compared as its uses a clutch system to put power to the rear, which is barely ever in use but you feel its weight 100% of the time.

But i'm a man that likes quite raw and nimble cars that are built for sheer driving enjoyment and steering feel, So I wouldnt own a R32 anyway, I understand the comparison for sure this has 250, tis has 230 which is fastest and so on, but as for the R32 is better comments, well.. Define better?
You might think acceleration is the best thing ever, so maybe it is to you, But to me.. Nope. I like my cars when they aren't lardy and weigh as much as a german super saloon even though they are a hatch. I also prefer 3 doors.
Acceleration is a bonus to the whole package, but i would prefer if the car was "fun"
As an aside dont care for VW and Audi's constantly rehashed cars (A Golf looks like a block of cheese imo, and the grill on the R32 is out of place and a bit mank) and all current Audi's look exactly the same so as such I'm far more interested in a Megane 265 if you like your hatches new ish.
Even if i had to have a R32 I wouldnt as you can get the exact same car with an Audi badge for a lot less as its all VAG bulls**t anyway and the A3 3.2 doesnt have VW tax all over it.

Essentially, When theres a thread saying X vs X its usually means how fast is X vs X..
Which means we dont really have to go into how a SC6 is old and a R32 is not, or the finer details of is leather trim.

In closing, I don't particularly give a f**k about some modern german boat/panzer tank with a big ****-off engine, If I wanted a new hatch with better built quality and refinement that was powerful out of the box and probably made more sense ( I dont) I would get a Megane 265 cup that would make the R32 look silly anyway.
Pretty much better in every possible respect.. (If you like lists here's one below):
Power
Acceleration
Handling
Ability to put power down in corners (Yes i know its FWD but its still true)
Brakes
Economy
Looks (IMO)

There you go modern vs modern, thats fair.
So I just look past the R32 with boredom as imo the 6 is a drivers car and it is not. Which in the end of it is what i care about

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 13:45
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Amen brother.

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 13:52
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Well said, +1 going your way Elliot Smile

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 14:07
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Smile Shucks

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 14:21
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I personally prefer the twisties which is why I'm back in a 6 not the scoob. But the thread is about straight line performance. But... in my standard engined 6 I fair quite well against low boost 6s. As for my opinion on lack of torque, I suspect I was simply spoiled with the impreza which taints my view. Smile

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 14:46
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Eliot...you were meant to end that post with:

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 14:54
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Haha Razz

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 14:54
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I know someone who has a mk5 R32 and when i was low boost we had a little blast up the ring road, rolling start from about 40 to 100 and to be fair i was quite a bit quicker!

I think it's more how you drive a low boost 6, being honest they pull like a standard 6 up intil about 4k revs, but if you rev them hard and keep the revs up they are very quick! R32 probably feels quicker low down but it's not on par with a low boost if both people are fully going for it.

However high boost is in a different league! LOL

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 17:15
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And silly boost, well... the clues in the name. Up Prescott hill stans silly boost was stupid. However, lees well driven and very well sorted low boost pulled a similar time. However lee's quite a good driver, I'm not knocking you by the way Stanley... LOL, and that counts for a lot. Still, gman will be at pugfest next year so it'll be interesting to see what times that posts in comparison to the majority if low boosts. I think it'll do okay. Smile
Either way though, I do really like the r32's. It's all personal preference and for me and my budget a standard engined good handling 6 will be more than sufficient.

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Posted 22nd Oct 2012 at 18:12

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