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 coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #26
Batesy86 wrote: Even if I left the box hanging half out because my arms were ruined? Yeah, plate won't have moved.but you might have damaged something  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
 Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 22:50
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Batesy86
Regular  Location: Canterbury Registered: 12 Dec 2011 Posts: 138 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Can get the box to slide on and off freely now just need to line bearin up. I presume as you look down then gaps in the bearing for fork are meant to point bulkhead side? |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 19:06
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #28
no, rad side, if its a Valeo or luk unit it will say top....________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 19:21
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #29
welshpug! wrote: no, rad side, if its a Valeo or luk unit it will say top.... Does it? I've fitted loads of Valeos and never seen the word "top" on the bearing... Handy if they do though and you're unsure.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 19:29
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Batesy86
Regular Location: Canterbury Registered: 12 Dec 2011 Posts: 138 Status: Offline |
Post #30
Ok so on the pic below (sorry for stealing pic off someone) the left hand side of the bearing has to be rad side when fitted? And does it have to be positioned so the gaps are lined up parallel vertically? If so when I try that the fork just pushes the box back towards the wing! |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 21:17
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #31
Slide your clutch on to the input shaft and when you move the fork you will soon see how it needs to go  ________________________________________  |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 21:22
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #32
That's it indeed.the fork should be at about 45 degrees to the input shaft, and as you move the box towards the block it will slide behind the bearing ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 21:23
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Batesy86
Regular Location: Canterbury Registered: 12 Dec 2011 Posts: 138 Status: Offline |
Post #33
Do you lift the lever arm halfway up at the same time? |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 22:44
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #34
what?!the clutch lever arm shouldn't be on till the box is bolted to the block. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 22:56
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #35
You won't get it on with the clutch arm still attached, at least I've never managed too! You need to remove the arm to allow the fork enough movement to line up with the bearing as you put the box back on. PS. Good luck getting the pin out!________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 22:58
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #36
Must of taken arm off to get the box off ? |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 23:03
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #37
big fate case of RTFM  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 23:10
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #38
bigbadbowen wrote: Must of taken arm off to get the box off ? Unless he bent it up, yes. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 17th Oct 2012 at 06:19
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Batesy86
Regular Location: Canterbury Registered: 12 Dec 2011 Posts: 138 Status: Offline |
Post #39
The box came off with the lever arm still on, I can't get it off, how is it attached to the fork? I've taken the spring and the pin out but the arm won't seperate from fork! |
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Posted 17th Oct 2012 at 08:51
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #40
If you have removed the spring and pin, then corrosion will be the only thing holding it on. Keep twisting it while lifting.I'm guessing the hole isnt lined up with the pin hole still, as it would have moved around when you wiggled the box to get it off as the shaft moves around a bit to get the fork from behind the bearing. Hence why when people leave the arm on with the pin through it, it will foul on the casing and not release easily without bending it out the way. You have a couple of options I suppose. Wiggle the arm off the shaft and break the corrosion grip. Use a drift to whack the shaft down while using a pry bar under the arm so it shocks the corrosion free. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 17th Oct 2012 at 09:15
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #41
just don't hit it too hard or you'll crack the casing...________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Oct 2012 at 09:24
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Batesy86
Regular Location: Canterbury Registered: 12 Dec 2011 Posts: 138 Status: Offline |
Post #42
The arm itself is it hollow at the top, I.e the top of it you can see is that lever or fork? |
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Posted 17th Oct 2012 at 10:22
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #43
the arm is a flat plate bent to shape with a tube welded into the end that slides over the shaft. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Oct 2012 at 10:31
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Batesy86
Regular Location: Canterbury Registered: 12 Dec 2011 Posts: 138 Status: Offline |
Post #44
So the rusty top bit is part of the arm not the fork? |
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Posted 17th Oct 2012 at 10:43
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #45
no, that's the top of the shaft the fork is welded to.also you should buy a pair of bushes. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Oct 2012 at 10:45
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #46
WP has described it perfectly well.One piece shaft with a fork you're struggling to get behind the bearing. That's one item. Arm is another. As mentioned, it has a tube which slides over the shaft, with holes that will line up with the hole through the shaft. It comes off. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 17th Oct 2012 at 10:50
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Batesy86
Regular Location: Canterbury Registered: 12 Dec 2011 Posts: 138 Status: Offline |
Post #47
Ok I'll have another go at getting it off, thought the IB was the worst bit! |
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Posted 17th Oct 2012 at 11:50
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #48
Not only does the arm come off, it HAS to come off for you to complete this job. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 17th Oct 2012 at 12:03
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #49
the arm is a bas**rd if it's stuck. i couldn't get the pin out on one (had no access to heat either) so bent the arm slightly. got a 205 box on my floor at the moment which i removed with the arm still on but the bearing was smashed to bits  so got that to remove before i put it all back together________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 17th Oct 2012 at 12:13
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jonnie205
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bicester Registered: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 4,146 Status: Offline |
Post #50
i cant see how you got the gearbox off in the first place without removing pin and rotating the arm, no wonder you couldnt get the box back on |
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Posted 17th Oct 2012 at 13:42
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