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 footah212
Senior User  Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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Anyone got a handy tip about how to get this fecker off?Tried a big f off breaker bar loads of heat and it still won't budge. Do I need an impact driver or something? Maybe just a scaffold tub on the breaker bar? ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
 Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 20:21
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
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Impact gun or 2 weetabix and breaker bar.________________________________________  |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 20:23
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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dangti6 wrote: Impact gun or 2 weetabix and breaker bar. I had 92 kgs on the bar not sure another 4g will make much difference  Not got an impact gun . Scaffold tube it is then ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 20:28
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bas_306gti
Regular  Location: Eindhoven Registered: 06 Sep 2012 Posts: 108 Status: Offline |
Post #4
breaker bar and with a long tube over it will do the job and somebody to push the brake |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 21:08
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gilesy
Seasoned Pro  Location: Greenwich - in that London Registered: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 5,133 Status: Offline |
Post #5
I tried once to take my hub nut off. I had a 6ft bar with 2 people on it and someone pressing the brakes also. Only thing that happened was the square drive going into the socket twisted off the bar like it was made of cheese. Gave up after that |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 21:12
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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bas_306gti wrote: breaker bar and with a long tube over it will do the job and somebody to push the brake This.  2 metre long piece of exhaust tube over a 20" breaker bar with the vehicle being put in 6th gear and an assistant having their foot hard on the brake pedal has always done the trick for me.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 21:23
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #7
If you can get an open-centre wheel such as a standard spare on then undoing them on the ground with the car in gear is a good way if you haven't got an impact gun.________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 21:26
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Rich E wrote: If you can get an open-centre wheel such as a standard spare on then undoing them on the ground with the car in gear is a good way if you haven't got an impact gun. Yeh it's on the ground with a c5 steelie on it. I' ll grab a scaffold tube from work tomorrow and give that a bash. The rear of the car is on stands at the moment , should be be ok if I got someone on the brake yeh? Or lower back end down do you think? ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 21:39
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Personally I would lower the rear end down if you have that option, just purely from a safety point of view.________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 21:43
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: Personally I would lower the rear end down if you have that option, just purely from a safety point of view. Think I will , otherwise I'll probably break three or four other items when trying to fix one as per usual. ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 21:48
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,795 Status: Offline |
Post #11
i wouldn't keep trying with a breaker bar, you'll probably f**k the threads on the driveshaft. impact gun is the best bet. i would only attempt anything with a breaker bar on the wheels with all the wheels on the ground, but impact gun off the ground will be fine________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 21:56
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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rikky wrote: i wouldn't keep trying with a breaker bar, you'll probably f**k the threads on the driveshaft. impact gun is the best bet. i would only attempt anything with a breaker bar on the wheels with all the wheels on the ground, but impact gun off the ground will be fine Do you mean I might round the nut? Can't workout how the driveshaft thread could be damaged. Don' t have access to an impact gun. ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 22:03
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,795 Status: Offline |
Post #13
no you won't round the nut, you will f**k the threads on the shaft which the nut is attached to. i have had similar experience with stuck hubnuts before i used an impact gun. i used varying scaffold poles and extension methods for the bar and every time myself or a friend did it, the thread on the driveshaft was ruined and you were unable to refit the hubnut. if it's too tight for a breaker bar i'd get an impact gun on it that way you are not putting prolonged stress on a fine thread________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 22:05
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
Post #14
rikky wrote: no you won't round the nut, you will f**k the threads on the shaft which the nut is attached to. i have had similar experience with stuck hubnuts before i used an impact gun. i used varying scaffold poles and extension methods for the bar and every time myself or a friend did it, the thread on the driveshaft was ruined and you were unable to refit the hubnut. if it's too tight for a breaker bar i'd get an impact gun on it that way you are not putting prolonged stress on a fine thread Now I get what you mean. ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 22:09
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #15
An impact gun is indeed best, as it will 'shock' the nut and thread, although I've never had a problem with using the breaker bar method.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 22:16
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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just get a 6 foot bar and jump on it, the nut will either come loose or the knuckle on the bar snap.wont damage the threads. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 22:17
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Scaffold tube and breaker bar it is. Cheers lads.________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 22:20
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Let us know how you get on, I'm sure you'll be fine. As Welshpug says, I have had the knuckle on the breaker bar snap before (luckily it was under lifetime warranty) but I've never ripped a thread out with the nut. They are quite sturdy items anyway.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 22:24
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,795 Status: Offline |
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 ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 22:26
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: Let us know how you get on, I'm sure you'll be fine. As Welshpug says, I have had the knuckle on the breaker bar snap before (luckily it was under lifetime warranty) but I've never ripped a thread out with the nut. They are quite sturdy items anyway. I'll let you know tomorrow ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 22:58
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Scaffold tube And pull up instead of push down or jump, I ind it more controlled to pull the bar up, no chance of smashing the knuckles and it makes you feel hard when it does crack off________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 7th Sep 2012 at 01:39
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jord294
Seasoned Pro  Location: somewhere in north wales Registered: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,110 Status: Offline |
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You are using the correct 35mm socket aren't you?________________________________________ FRESHLY RE-FURBISHED GTI BEAMSFITTING AND LOWERING AVAILABLE. ALL AXLES BUILT USING GENUINE PEUGEOT PARTS IF I'M NOT HERE, IT ONLY MEANS ONE THING.... I'M SOMEWHERE ELSE! |
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Posted 7th Sep 2012 at 01:59
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smegal
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #23
car on the ground and a jack under your breaker bar________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 7th Sep 2012 at 02:47
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
Post #24
I've never had any grief getting them off. I put my car's steelie on, put the car down, used either 1/2" drive or 3/4" if i had one, put an axle stand next to the wheel centre to support the short extension, take the dead weight and prevent droop/twist of the bar, then jumped on the end. Works a treat. I've never damaged a drive shaft thread though, can't understand what happened there really. ________________________________________ I'm Si btw Night Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper  - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 7th Sep 2012 at 05:24
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #25
jord294 wrote: You are using the correct 35mm socket aren't you? A more commonly available 36mm impact socket is fine. I've undone umpteen and never rounded one. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 7th Sep 2012 at 07:24
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