Didn't someone crack their pipe work though with it all solid?
Always cracking my pipework when its solid!
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #101
m306 wrote: Didn't someone crack their pipe work though with it all solid? Always cracking my pipework when its solid! |
Posted 22nd Jun 2012 at 18:06
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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Posted 22nd Jun 2012 at 18:23
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spiky
Seasoned Pro Location: Cardiff Registered: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,310 Status: Offline |
Post #103
Minea not sollid completely, check my build and you will understand what I meanWhat I mean is there is no where for the pope to get sucked in or anything like that There is flex but minimal , as it should be ________________________________________ Do you need a 205 > 306 gti6 plug and go engine loom? PM METORQUES for all your braided fuel line needs MY YouTube Videos' SUPERCHARGED 205 GTI6.... are you Fooking nuts!.... ummmm YIP 268+BHP and 860kg = FUN |
Posted 22nd Jun 2012 at 21:53
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spiky
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Post #104
Double post________________________________________ Do you need a 205 > 306 gti6 plug and go engine loom? PM METORQUES for all your braided fuel line needs MY YouTube Videos' SUPERCHARGED 205 GTI6.... are you Fooking nuts!.... ummmm YIP 268+BHP and 860kg = FUN |
Posted 22nd Jun 2012 at 21:54
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spiky
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As you can see here________________________________________ Do you need a 205 > 306 gti6 plug and go engine loom? PM METORQUES for all your braided fuel line needs MY YouTube Videos' SUPERCHARGED 205 GTI6.... are you Fooking nuts!.... ummmm YIP 268+BHP and 860kg = FUN |
Posted 22nd Jun 2012 at 22:02
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spiky
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Post #106
And the silicone pipe on the left is solid as the inside has metal fitted inside , so it won't squeeze or suck in________________________________________ Do you need a 205 > 306 gti6 plug and go engine loom? PM METORQUES for all your braided fuel line needs MY YouTube Videos' SUPERCHARGED 205 GTI6.... are you Fooking nuts!.... ummmm YIP 268+BHP and 860kg = FUN |
Posted 22nd Jun 2012 at 22:03
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ballardpaul
Seasoned Pro Location: Croydon Registered: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 4,135 Status: Offline |
Post #107
Yeah mine was like that with a few silicones on the joins but could not get sucked in either. ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi 6 (Standard) SoldPhase 3 Supercharged China GTi 6 (249.8 BHP) Sold Phase 3 Supercharged Diablo GTi 6 (443 BHP)Sold Nissan 350Z (300 BHP) |
Posted 23rd Jun 2012 at 00:17
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #108
Mine was also like that on low boost...Had quite a few issues with the running of the car when the silicone was being sucked in. As soon as I fixed this issue, the problems went away with stalling and the like. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 23rd Jun 2012 at 10:27
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #109
Since putting the lightened flywheel and pully on mine stalls easy and sometimes cuts out if you drop the revs to quick while moving. No fault codes either :/ and ICV clean etc as well... Can only get worse when I finish charging it I immagine but will have to see. Only one place that can suck in on mine and I plan to sort soon either with rings or solid 45 degree pipe.________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGEDSeat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
Posted 24th Jun 2012 at 23:10
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #110
Armzs16 - The problem will be more pronounced with the lighter running gear as there is now less inertia to keep the engine turning. There are a couple of ways you can get round this problem. You can either change your driving style to suit the technical changes when slowing down and/or change to the later map (not sure if you already have this) which has been modified by Wayne to cut down on the stalling. By sorting out the place where you have a pipe collapsing under vacuum will also help out quite a bit. Funnily enough, this stalling is a very common issue, although once I sorted out the collapsing hose, it never missed a beat after that or stalled, however people who have done the same, the problem still exists on most. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 25th Jun 2012 at 06:19
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midlife
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Post #111
I'm a big believer that the stalling issue is due to the icv not being able to flow enough air so the vacuum slows the engine too quickly. Has anyone looked at either a bigger icv or even dual icv's________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!!Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
Posted 25th Jun 2012 at 07:21
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #112
Wayne, the ICV is the issue. On a standard car, it controls the air flow in the plenum that's all.On the SC cars, the same ICV has to control the air flow in the plenum, the intercooler and all the connecting pipework which is obviously a much larger surface area. Dual ICV's could be a solution, I don't run an ICV on my car as the setup is different but it's definitely an idea to think about the majority of the SC cars. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 25th Jun 2012 at 12:35
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m306
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Post #113
Oh so that explains why the larger high boost intercooler is considered worse for the stalling then. Out of interest how much would it cost/ how hard would it be to get an icv setup that works on these? ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
Posted 25th Jun 2012 at 12:49
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buzzbrightyear
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Post #114
It would be easy enough I wouldOf thought. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
Posted 25th Jun 2012 at 15:39
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buzzbrightyear
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Post #115
Why Is it not an issue on high boost?________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
Posted 25th Jun 2012 at 15:39
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chrisd306
Seasoned Pro Location: Perth Scotland Registered: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 10,061 Status: Offline |
Post #116
mine does stall sometimes, if you have been gunning it then stop for junction not all the time, never done it low boost with small icoolerwhen i had mine mapped at waynes, he just made my idle slightly higher so doesnt do it as bad ________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
Posted 25th Jun 2012 at 15:55
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #117
buzzbrightyear wrote: Why Is it not an issue on high boost? It is. Anything over 3k rpm on a high boost and dip the clutch it will stall. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 25th Jun 2012 at 16:27
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chrisd306
Seasoned Pro Location: Perth Scotland Registered: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 10,061 Status: Offline |
Post #118
mine isint as bad as that Stan, its not that often that it happens________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
Posted 25th Jun 2012 at 16:36
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buzzbrightyear
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Post #119
should be easy enough to fit another icv________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
Posted 25th Jun 2012 at 17:27
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gilesy
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Post #120
spiky wrote: What I mean is there is no where for the pope to get sucked in or anything like that Has the pope ever been sucked off??? |
Posted 25th Jun 2012 at 17:33
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buzzbrightyear
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Post #121
Not for years Just the glory hole ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
Posted 25th Jun 2012 at 17:36
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chrisd306
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Post #122
he does the sucking of an its normally young alter boys________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
Posted 25th Jun 2012 at 17:53
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jord294
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Post #123
so do all the low boost SC 306s pull similiar power ???????? ________________________________________ FRESHLY RE-FURBISHED GTI BEAMSFITTING AND LOWERING AVAILABLE. ALL AXLES BUILT USING GENUINE PEUGEOT PARTS IF I'M NOT HERE, IT ONLY MEANS ONE THING.... I'M SOMEWHERE ELSE! |
Posted 2nd Jul 2012 at 15:10
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #124
Between 230 and 260 bhps________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
Posted 2nd Jul 2012 at 15:16
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jord294
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Post #125
smegal wrote: Between 230 and 260 bhps I suppose that is down to how healthy and strong the engine is to start with ________________________________________ FRESHLY RE-FURBISHED GTI BEAMSFITTING AND LOWERING AVAILABLE. ALL AXLES BUILT USING GENUINE PEUGEOT PARTS IF I'M NOT HERE, IT ONLY MEANS ONE THING.... I'M SOMEWHERE ELSE! |
Posted 2nd Jul 2012 at 15:54
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