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Looks smart, inlet and exhaust should give a nice little gain..________________________________________
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Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R
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 rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Project thread here 309 3dr K20 Type R |
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asim_pug306
Senior User  Location: Bradford Registered: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 933 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Been down this route with my old XS too. Had the full GTi6 exhaust system and inlet. Wouldn't really bother with the inlet unless you just want it to look nicer under the bonnet. Rolling road showed no increase in power, if anything it was down on power due to not being mapped for the mods or anything. Think I got up to a dizzy 109bhp  . Wasn't a smooth line at all though so the car definitely didn't like the mods.Exhaust manifold gives a little more low down torque as the standard one is very restrictive as John says. Don't be a twat like me, make sure you modify your rear hoses as they foul the bigger GTi6 manifold. ________________________________________ '01 Astor Grey GTi6'99 Cherry Rallye |
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Posted 14th May 2012 at 22:33
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro  Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
Post #28
Yellow fogs looking awesome as ever Dan!!!________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 14th May 2012 at 22:59
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ruan
Junior User  Location: Truro Registered: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 64 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Drop a GTi6/S16 head on one of these and it'll be absolutely awesome IMO...Just need some decent mapping to go along with, short stroke, light block - perfect! |
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Posted 15th May 2012 at 13:11
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asim_pug306
Senior User Location: Bradford Registered: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 933 Status: Offline |
Post #30
The xu7 head is actually renowned for being really nice to work with. I would go down that route if I was you, get some better air flow and you should see good gains.________________________________________ '01 Astor Grey GTi6'99 Cherry Rallye |
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Posted 15th May 2012 at 13:41
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,304 Status: Offline |
Post #31
dan86 wrote: 5 hours work;   ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 15th May 2012 at 21:30
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dan86
Senior User  Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #32
I have OCD...   New mudflaps; 306 badges to follow.   ________________________________________ |
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Posted 17th May 2012 at 21:49
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
Post #33
Looks brilliant now Dan - Love the way this ones going.________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 17th May 2012 at 23:36
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #34
I picked up a gti6 inlet manifold yesterday and was considering fitting it to the XS but using the XS throttle body and injectors to save messing up the air fuel ratio. Any thoughts before I get the tool box out? ________________________________________ |
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Posted 21st May 2012 at 11:03
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Ashman
Junior User  Location: Nottingham Registered: 27 Feb 2012 Posts: 54 Status: Offline |
Post #35
I have done this to my XS and I'm having various troubles with mine at the moment. But i didn't realise I could use my old throttle body. I may have to try this |
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Posted 21st May 2012 at 11:11
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Ashman
Junior User Location: Nottingham Registered: 27 Feb 2012 Posts: 54 Status: Offline |
Post #36
But would using the standard XS throttle body mess up the air to fuel ratio even more i your using '6 injectors? |
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Posted 21st May 2012 at 11:13
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asim_pug306
Senior User Location: Bradford Registered: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 933 Status: Offline |
Post #37
dan86 wrote: I picked up a gti6 inlet manifold yesterday and was considering fitting it to the XS but using the XS throttle body and injectors to save messing up the air fuel ratio. Any thoughts before I get the tool box out? You need to use the standard injectors in the GTi6 fuel rail. Using GTi6 injectors will make your car smoke like hell ________________________________________ '01 Astor Grey GTi6'99 Cherry Rallye |
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Posted 21st May 2012 at 11:34
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Ashman
Junior User Location: Nottingham Registered: 27 Feb 2012 Posts: 54 Status: Offline |
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asim_pug306 wrote: dan86 wrote: I picked up a gti6 inlet manifold yesterday and was considering fitting it to the XS but using the XS throttle body and injectors to save messing up the air fuel ratio. Any thoughts before I get the tool box out? You need to use the standard injectors in the GTi6 fuel rail. Using GTi6 injectors will make your car smoke like hell This is what I've done and now it's running too rich. What can happen if it runs too rich? |
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Posted 21st May 2012 at 13:24
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #39
I plan to use the XS injectors and throttle body so in theory the a/f ratio will be the same. I'm not hoping for power gains but a more throaty sound would be nice.Running rich would foul up the spark plugs and just run like crap. Probably not a good idea to run it for too long like it because it could end up contaminating the oil. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 21st May 2012 at 16:06
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atterz
Seasoned Pro  Location: Stafford Registered: 18 Feb 2011 Posts: 1,134 Status: Offline |
Post #40
You will wash down the bores, as above. Bad idea!________________________________________ owain wrote: A GTI-6 with a good dashboard and the seats down can outsprint an E46 M3 in July. |
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Posted 21st May 2012 at 17:54
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asim_pug306
Senior User Location: Bradford Registered: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 933 Status: Offline |
Post #41
atterz wrote: You will wash down the bores, as above. Bad idea! Forgot to mention my engine was fooked a few months after . No idea if this mod caused it though. I used the 6 throttle body________________________________________ '01 Astor Grey GTi6'99 Cherry Rallye |
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Posted 21st May 2012 at 19:07
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #42
Does anyone know if the fuel pressure regulator in the gti6 fuel rail the same as the XU7 one? ________________________________________ |
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Posted 21st May 2012 at 20:15
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #43
yup________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 21st May 2012 at 20:24
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #44
Nice one Mei. You are a wealth of knowledge; much appreciated.Do you think the intake runners are longer or shorter on the RS mani? ________________________________________ |
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Posted 21st May 2012 at 20:34
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #45
not purely a wealth of knowledge, I have an extensive selection of bookmarks that give all the answers, most commonly used is Servicebox  RS are longer I would think certainly look it, also larger diameter. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 21st May 2012 at 20:37
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #46
I'm worried now that torque will suffer with larger bore runners. Although being longer would promote torque lower down I would of thought.________________________________________ |
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Posted 21st May 2012 at 20:45
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arigti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Wiltshire Registered: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 2,365 Status: Offline |
Post #47
Lovely XS this!Exactly what I am looking at getting now, If I am seriously going to get another 306 anytime soon. Insurance is just too silly to even consider a '6  I was a proper camera whore with my '6 although I never really bothered posting pics on here. I want to get another 306 and do a 'Project thread' although It wouldn't be that great in comparison to most on here  I would probably get 'burnt' ________________________________________ I Live for the 306 TEAM CHERRY PINK RALLYE 2008 BMW ///M 320d |
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Posted 21st May 2012 at 20:50
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #48
I'm having second thoughts about fitting the RS inlet.Even though I plan to use the XU7 throttle body and injectors I'm worried that there will be lean spots somewhere in the rev range if I run it without having a remap. Am I being a bit too cautious? What do you folks reckon? ________________________________________ |
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Posted 23rd May 2012 at 06:59
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #49
I'm in a position to fit the RS manifold now but before I do I was wondering what you guys think about the ecu being able to compensate for any difference in mixture.Looking at the two side by side I would say the '6' mani has shorter runners which would suggest the pulse tuning would be tuned for cramming more air into the combustion chamber higher up in the rpm range. If this is the case would the ecu be able to detect and correct this by adding more fuel or does it run a preset fuel map with no compensation? The last thing I want to do is melt something. Thanks in advance. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 24th May 2012 at 19:29
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #50
sling it on and stick it on a RR  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th May 2012 at 19:39
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