Post #51
I might be wrong but I think a few people on 306oc have done various combinations of changing manifolds, injectors, throttle bodies to a RS one and no one has had much success (or non backed up by RR results anyway).
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 lewisdmz
Senior User  Location: plymouth Registered: 25 Jul 2009 Posts: 504 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 24th May 2012 at 19:43
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dan86
Senior User  Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #52
Right, just been outside and disabled my daily driver...again! The XU7 inlet has no plenum as such and no velocity stacks; just all four runners crammed side by side sat right next to the throttle body. It has quite a large resonator built in to the back of it also. The RS manifold seems to be fouling on the power steering hard pipes attached to the pump. It looks like the same pump as the 6 though. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 24th May 2012 at 20:56
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funkymonk
Regular  Location: Westbury Registered: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 317 Status: Offline |
Post #53
http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=64213&page=1 As here mate, pipes need some "persuasion" . I was lucky with mine as it was non AC so the PAS pump was on the sump. Looking sweet anyway  ________________________________________ There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that don't... |
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Posted 25th May 2012 at 00:23
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #54
Thanks for the link Rob. Very useful.  ________________________________________ |
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Posted 25th May 2012 at 06:50
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #55
I bought some xsi badges as I prefer the red over the chrome. I cut the 'i' off to make an xs badge with the slanted font.   I have fitted a Gti6 inlet manifold using the xu7 injectors and throttle body. An adapter plate had to be made to make the the throttle body fit. I used some aluminium plate as it's easy to cut/file.     I'm not happy with it. I took it for a test drive and a couple of times it coughed at about 4500rpm, almost like a carb spits back. It has scared the s**t out of me as I thought it was something catastrophic. There is also a hesitance at 5500rpm which was always there even before the mani change. I'm not sure what this problem may be; coil pack breaking down? It does it almost every time I try to take it to the red line but on occasion it will go to 6000rpm no problem and feels strong/smooth. I think I will put it back to standard as I feel it is much safer for the engine. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 27th May 2012 at 21:30
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martinh
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bideford Registered: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1,274 Status: Offline |
Post #56
Is that the manifold you had off me the other day mate?! |
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Posted 27th May 2012 at 21:52
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #57
martinh wrote: Is that the manifold you had off me the other day mate?! Yes mate, surprising what a lick of paint will do. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 27th May 2012 at 21:57
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #58
martinh wrote: Is that the manifold you had off me the other day mate?! I was considering fitting the cylinder head aswell but decided against it. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 27th May 2012 at 21:57
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martinh
Seasoned Pro Location: Bideford Registered: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1,274 Status: Offline |
Post #59
Christ! That certainly looks better! I drove past yours yesterday as I was looking at a 206 for sale at the bottom of your road. Seemed cheap so was hoping to make a quick buck but turns out it was cheap for a reason...... |
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Posted 27th May 2012 at 22:02
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #60
Got to look though as you never know. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 27th May 2012 at 22:19
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #61
I've polished the manifold to a point at where I'm happy with it. It's not perfect but I think it will look good when fitted. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 8th Jul 2012 at 13:26
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro  Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
Post #62
^^ Sore fingers now Dan??Good work as usual. Love the XS badge on the doors as well ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster  owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 8th Jul 2012 at 15:58
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #63
Sore isn't the word Matt. LolI got the manifold in the engine bay last night. I took the subframe/steering rack off to get it in there. There may be a few scratches on it now though.   The car is back on its wheels again now but the there are a few teething issues with the water hose that goes from the back of the water pump to the metal tube that runs behind the block. There is a rubber hose that joins the two which loops out and is in the way of the manifold. I have a Gti6 water outlet and metal tube so I think I'll see if that fits, On servicebox it says they both use a 42mm 'O' ring and are held on with two bolts. The manifold is hanging off a couple of head studs at the moment whilst I come up with a solution. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 08:19
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #64
err, why bother upgrading the inlet if you stick the teeny XU7 throttle body on there?! ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 08:33
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #65
I thought it might get me half way there until I can get some different management on the case to cope with the Gti6 TB. It made enough of a difference to make it run like a bag of sh*t though ________________________________________ |
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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 08:46
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #66
Well, the gti6 manifold and exhaust improves things! it feels more free revving at high rpm. It sounds amazing too. It sings through the stainless mani which you can here through the bulkhead.It's the best mod I've done other than the yellow fogs. http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/dangti6/VIDEO0102-0-1.mp4 ________________________________________ |
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Posted 11th Jul 2012 at 18:43
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #67
I've just finished stripping and rebuilding my RS cylinder head in my garage ready for bolting on top of the xu7 Which head gasket should be used 83mm or 86mm? ________________________________________ |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 22:10
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #68
83.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 22:33
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Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #69
Thats exactly what im planning on doing. Was going to with my old 1.8 but now ive got the 6, can buy a second engine and spend a bit of time building it. Should make a big difference. The 1.8 head is incredibly restricted. i ported mine and it made a big big difference but ended up scrapping the car. Mate has got the engine now but dont know what his plans are. good luck! You will get a few haters on here telling you its pointless but only one way to find out! |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 22:43
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #70
welshpug! wrote: 83. Cheers Mei. you wouldn't happen to know which head bolts to use would you? Servicebox says 0204 80 for xu7 and 0204 ao for xu10. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 23:03
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #71
Niall wrote: Thats exactly what im planning on doing. Was going to with my old 1.8 but now ive got the 6, can buy a second engine and spend a bit of time building it. Should make a big difference. The 1.8 head is incredibly restricted. i ported mine and it made a big big difference but ended up scrapping the car. Mate has got the engine now but dont know what his plans are. good luck! You will get a few haters on here telling you its pointless but only one way to find out! I normally find out the hard way. lol. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 23:06
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #72
theoretically it will work really well and i know the 205 boys do similar with great results. will be keeping an eye on this. As i said, basically what im planning on doing (except mine will have a turbo on the side of it!) but yours will probably be done well before me! |
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Posted 17th Oct 2012 at 15:59
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #73
Does anyone know which headbolts to use or whether I can re-use the originals? ________________________________________ |
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Posted 18th Oct 2012 at 07:21
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #74
XU7j4rs FTW. It is very peaky. It slams into the rev limiter now. It has less low down grunt than before until 3k then it just takes off! I was experiencing a fair bit of torque steer top of 2nd and 3rd; there's not a lot of weight holding the nose down. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 17:05
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #75
sounds like tracking is out or some wear somewhere, or changing road surfaces as I don't get any in a lighter more powerful 205.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 17:10
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