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 welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #26
mattgti6phase2 wrote: I like the cam kick at 5k tho which is more noticeable than then 6. But f*ck working on one  no shit sherlock, gti6 doesn't have VVT  agreed on working on them mind  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
 Posted 14th Feb 2012 at 17:07
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro  Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Obviously the 6 doesn't have vvt didn't say it did All im saying is the power curve on tbe RS engine is very progressive so not massively noticeable where as on the renfault you notice it much more. ________________________________________ Team Nile 6 Team: 40.2 MPG  5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™  I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness  |
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Posted 14th Feb 2012 at 18:14
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arigti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Wiltshire Registered: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 2,365 Status: Offline |
Post #28
I am not getting in on the 'GTi6 engine is better' debate as I don't have a clue.  I think Sandy is the Chap me and a mate were talking to 5/6 yrs ago at Castle Combe on a Saloon race day (I recognise the 206 on his avatar) Car was running circa 290BHP?? Went like stink aroung Combe, that's for sure! Sandy Brown... The Man... The Legend! ________________________________________ I Live for the 306 TEAM CHERRY PINK RALLYE 2008 BMW ///M 320d |
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Posted 14th Feb 2012 at 20:19
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #29
welshpug! wrote: 180 has 202 Nm of torque (149 lbft), I would imagine its smoothness and non peaky delivery made it "feel" slow, not to mention the fact that many had ecu issues that required a software update and they were up to full power after. GTISID must be one hell of a powerwalker 138 has 190 Nm of torque, 89% of which spread between 1800 and 5750, peak is at 6k which I would imagine are due to the restrictive inlet and exhaust manifolds, given the dramatic increases Longman saw with just throttle bodies and exhaust manifold alone, torque from this one was 20 lbft more than the 180 engine. 90 hp 8 valve DW10 only has 205 Nm So you think longmans took a standard engine slapped on tbs and manifolds then got 190 bop  I think you will find they took the thing apart rebuilt it from the ground up with uprated parts and always used EFI not Omex  |
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Posted 14th Feb 2012 at 20:30
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #30
bigbadbowen wrote: welshpug! wrote: 180 has 202 Nm of torque (149 lbft), I would imagine its smoothness and non peaky delivery made it "feel" slow, not to mention the fact that many had ecu issues that required a software update and they were up to full power after. GTISID must be one hell of a powerwalker 138 has 190 Nm of torque, 89% of which spread between 1800 and 5750, peak is at 6k which I would imagine are due to the restrictive inlet and exhaust manifolds, given the dramatic increases Longman saw with just throttle bodies and exhaust manifold alone, torque from this one was 20 lbft more than the 180 engine. 90 hp 8 valve DW10 only has 205 Nm So you think longmans took a standard engine slapped on tbs and manifolds then got 190 bop I think you will find they took the thing apart rebuilt it from the ground up with uprated parts and always used EFI not Omex You're right about the EFI, but seeing as they sold the 185 bhp package (without the exhaust) for £3k there's no way it included a complete engine rebuild. ________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 14th Feb 2012 at 20:34
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #31
mattgti6phase2 wrote: The gfs mum has a 172 cup. in 1st gear but not very quick through the others. I like the cam kick at 5k tho which is more noticeable than then 6. But f*ck working on one I would say it's better in 2nd and 3rd than first, but everyone has a different perception. Yeah, the VVT makes it much more fun to drive than a 6 IMO. A GTi6 is 'refined' at speed when compared. Yeah, the cambelts are 'tricky' compared to a '6 one, but you can practically stand in a Cup engine bay, there is so much room in there. Very basic. ________________________________________  |
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Posted 14th Feb 2012 at 20:41
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #32
bigbadbowen wrote: So you think longmans took a standard engine slapped on tbs and manifolds then got 190 bop I don't think, I know they did. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 14th Feb 2012 at 21:47
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #33
welshpug! wrote: mattgti6phase2 wrote: I like the cam kick at 5k tho which is more noticeable than then 6. But f*ck working on one no shit sherlock, gti6 doesn't have VVT agreed on working on them mind Fannies |
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Posted 14th Feb 2012 at 22:20
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BrianM
Regular  Location: Kirkcaldy Registered: 01 May 2009 Posts: 487 Status: Offline |
Post #34
I do miss my gti 180 sometimes but prefer the way 306's go around corners ________________________________________ '13 208 Gti Bianca White, '99 Bianca 306 Rallye, '92 309 Goodwood GTi 5dr, '92 Miami Blue 309 GTi 3dr. |
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Posted 14th Feb 2012 at 23:08
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24seven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #35
dav1 wrote: If we wanted so much torque we would buy diesels. One of the most retarded comments I've seen in a while... Power = Torque x RPM The EW engine replaced the XU for a reason... ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 00:03
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #36
adam b wrote: Rubbish its extremely reliable. They aren't bad, thats it. Using the RS engine I am currently running 454bhp. And have been 100% reliable at this power. The only components that have been changed are the pistons and rods. I am still using the standard crank, block, head, valves, cams and cooling system. Considering Peugeot were expecting this engine to run circa 170bhp, you can't really say that's a bad result, can you? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 07:05
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