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| Author | Subject: Would a well setup low boost six beat a renault megane r 26r |
 binkagti
Seasoned Pro  Location: canterbury Registered: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,411 Status: Offline |
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Would a well setup low boost six with uprated brakes beat a renault megane r 26r around a track day, most r26r are around 15k plus well you could do a lot to a 6 to keep up for problably half that amount. ________________________________________ TEAM Supercharged Rallye |
 Posted 26th Jan 2012 at 20:49
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
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nah,need decent suspension on the 6 to give the meggy a run for its money |
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Posted 26th Jan 2012 at 20:51
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binkagti
Seasoned Pro Location: canterbury Registered: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,411 Status: Offline |
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Ok so lets say 6 has bilstein b8 with eibach springs 30mm b8 bilstein on the back, solid rear beam mounts, roller bearing p bush lowered beam with 21mmtb and hybrid 30arb what then??And 330mm 4 pot brakes ________________________________________ TEAM Supercharged Rallye |
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Posted 26th Jan 2012 at 20:55
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lost4words
Senior User  Location: Leicester Registered: 11 Nov 2008 Posts: 716 Status: Offline |
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its all about the driver  ________________________________________ Team 'No Longer A 306 Owner'Team 'VTEC' Black Honda Civic 'EP3' Type R Moonstone 306 Gti-6 - Died at 82k Black 306 HDI - Sold 08/08/2010 at 102,229 |
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Posted 26th Jan 2012 at 20:57
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24seven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
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Track days aren't for racing...________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 26th Jan 2012 at 21:06
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birk
Seasoned Pro  Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
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If it was like that I'd day so.I pushed one around rockingham last year. ________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo = Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 26th Jan 2012 at 21:15
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
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binkagti wrote: Would a well setup low boost six with uprated brakes beat a renault megane r 26r around a track day, most r26r are around 15k plus well you could do a lot to a 6 to keep up for problably half that amount. Seeing as the r26r holds the ring record for front whelk drive cars I'd say the fact it's newer with better chassis brakes on r888s and the cage means it should out do a 6 all day long  |
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Posted 26th Jan 2012 at 21:22
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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I reckon a well set up '6 (310mm kit, good suspension, R888s, low boost) would be almost a perfect match for the R26R. A mate of mine used to own one, and even my standard '6 did a good job of keeping up with it, except on the straights. Add a blower to the equation and I reckon the chase would very much be on.________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 26th Jan 2012 at 21:27
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davewagon
Senior User  Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
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I'd wager that you were being a bit more of a hero in the corners, than your mate was in his much more expensive car?The only way to know would be to time yourself in both cars, rule out the effect of different driving styles ? ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job  |
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Posted 26th Jan 2012 at 21:39
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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davewagon wrote: I'd wager that you were being a bit more of a hero in the corners, than your mate was in his much more expensive car? Depends if it was before or after he put it into a wall at Cadwell, can't remember  ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 26th Jan 2012 at 21:43
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allesclar
Seasoned Pro  Location: Sheffield Registered: 17 May 2009 Posts: 4,254 Status: Offline |
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all about the driver.________________________________________ Team allesclar ® |
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Posted 26th Jan 2012 at 21:59
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Surely a low boost 6 would win the Reno in a straight line?________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 26th Jan 2012 at 22:03
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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1230 kilos and 230 lbft from 3k upwards, what's the torque on a low boost 6?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 26th Jan 2012 at 22:27
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #14
not sure but I had mine up against a couple of scoobys an a eve on the duel carriageway and I was miles ahead, If it wouldn't beat it then they must be fast and they wouldn't be much in it at all________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 26th Jan 2012 at 23:07
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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and my freind Had (just sold last week) a mk1 focus rwd cossie conversion running 280bhp and he said mine with low boost would of wiped floor with his, so I would imagine it would win the Reno in a line________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 26th Jan 2012 at 23:10
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musclebeach
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,763 Status: Offline |
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Question is.....what would it be like to live with day to day though? Are they a jarry ride on the Bilsteins? I guess if the money's right they'd be a very capable and almost comfy car ________________________________________ VW Golf GT TDI 115, 100k nooooooooooooooooooooo! |
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Posted 27th Jan 2012 at 00:30
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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I gave a saloon car racer (so he knew how to drive) a very hard time I'm my stripped and caged Rallye at Collerne. He was faster down the straights, but through the corners I was able to carry more speed and negate some of his straight line advantage. However he was suffering from brake fade and as such was backing off a little early into the heavy braking zones. I was pushing 190 brake on Jenveys and aprox 1050kgs at the time. I had GAZ golds, 30mm ARB, solid beam bushes, neg camber front, 21mm bars. Tyres were R888s. I chatted to him after in the paddock, he was surprised and somewhat miffed that I pegged him for 5 laps before letting md go, until he got the lowdown on my setup. If his brakes were sorted and I had had 30-40 more bhp it could've been a very good match, I like to think I'd have done him though  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 27th Jan 2012 at 00:51
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swifter gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Lancashire Registered: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 10,760 Status: Offline |
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My old standard 306 was miles of my R26 for outright grip, infact a long way off. My 306 was a very good standard car. The R26R having more grip again.Infact to put the R26R into perspective, in one of Autocars tests (not sure what the test was about - may even have been Evo mag) the R26R was producing higher cornering speeds than the Ferrari 458, Porker 911 gt3 rs not to mention other big name sports cars. It obviously lost out massivley on the straights and had overall slower lap times. You will need to spend a lot of money and then at the end of the day it will still be a 306 when you come to sell it on. You would deffo need an LSD on the 306 as thats where you will loose loads of time. ________________________________________ Wedding and portrait photography click here |
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Posted 27th Jan 2012 at 07:58
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zedx19
Seasoned Pro  Location: Mansfield Registered: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,479 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Who cares? I know what you'd have more fun in, not all about which is the fastest round a track! And modern cars have way more grip then our GTi-6's, grip doesn't equal fun! ________________________________________ 149bhp ATW stripped GTi-6 & B6 Passat TDi daily drive--------------------------------------------------  GTi-6.co.uk - Videos and Pictures |
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Posted 27th Jan 2012 at 08:52
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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zedx19 wrote: Who cares? I know what you'd have more fun in, not all about which is the fastest round a track! And modern cars have way more grip then our GTi-6's, grip doesn't equal fun! I dare to say it, but i'm sure the R26R is going to be awesome fun round a track, it didn't get amazing reviews for nothing Down to the day, the driver, the track and the individual car. My nearly standard Rallye was in a different league to CUJ's R26. Never use an impreza as a guide to acceleration or speed. Sure you might beat the odd one or two, but one day you will be properly embarrassed by one. Done properly there isn't much to touch them. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 27th Jan 2012 at 09:29
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Driven both, R26R is an awesome machine but for fun on a trackday it's the '6 every time. Being a new car, the 'R is quiet, smooth and relatively comfortable, whereas the '6 is a rattling noisy pile of fun you can throw around like a beaten up old toy. Plus R888's in a 235/18"? Would not fancy paying for those. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 27th Jan 2012 at 09:33
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chrisd306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Perth Scotland Registered: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 10,061 Status: Offline |
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I'd go with a high boost 306 you could build one for r26r money________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
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Posted 27th Jan 2012 at 09:36
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jim01uk
Seasoned Pro  Location: around Registered: 16 Dec 2005 Posts: 8,996 Status: Offline |
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For £15K I'd probably buy an ex-touring car like Mr Chambers has. How would that fair against the R26? Rather than chucking £15K at a 6 and it being worth 4pence in a years time, an ex BTCC car will hold it's value despite being a small market to sell to. |
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Posted 27th Jan 2012 at 09:53
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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I'd have this on remoulds and p*ss myself laughing:Slidey slidey... ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 27th Jan 2012 at 10:03
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jim01uk
Seasoned Pro Location: around Registered: 16 Dec 2005 Posts: 8,996 Status: Offline |
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Posted 27th Jan 2012 at 10:10
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