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matt evans

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Was chatting with my mate Rich last night about options for his rallye Trackday car. More specifically about generating more power (the holy grail i know).

I've seen the V6 transplant on here and done well, its a nice conversion, but in keeping with the 4 pot theme, what other things have folks seen done?

Before all the Supercharged boys look in and beast me for asking stupid questions, he's looked at that and to build a 300 - 350 bhp engine, will be serious money, plus we like to think outside the box.

I know there is a Vauxhall C20let engine in a 306 doing the rounds, but i was leaning towards a VAG 1.8t 20v engine. Similar size, turbo on the back, inlet on the front, 6 speed box as well.... and i know Martin Hadland (Reyland in Brum) fits these into various MG rover products and makes them work very very well.

Anyone got any other ideas to throw in the mix?

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Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 08:52
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Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 08:56
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matt evans

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rikky wrote:
honda vtec


That was mentioned as well, b16 lump with turbocharging. Some strong power to be had out of one of them.

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Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 08:58
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Are you after engines that make good power, or engines that are likely to fit?

To be fair, I think whatever engine he goes for, its going to need some fabricating work to rearrange the engine mounts etc?

How about an RX7 engine? I think CRF450 was planning on this. Small light engine, low centre of gravity, lots of power. No idea if you can mount it the other way to keep FWD though? Unsure Laugh

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Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 09:00
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matt evans

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Its gotta sort of fit in the "hole" as it were.

Its very much an ideas stage at the moment, he's aware of the need to fabricate mounts and custom driveshafts etc etc, as well as some ecu/loom issues.

Hence the VAG lump. Had a nose round my mate Seat cupra 225 converted Bora on saturday and the mounts seem to be in very similar places and the engine box combo overall length was almost the same as the gti 6 engine / box.

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owain wrote:
Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile.

Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 09:12
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T5.

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Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 09:20
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Matt if you're looking for a 210/225 engine, I might have a couple Whistle
Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 09:20
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Trionic 5 2.3 Saab aero engine, loads of torque!

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T5 engine + box apparently weighs about 150 kilos, pretty light though I don't know what ancillaries that included.

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Trionic 5 2.3 Saab aero engine, loads of torque!
dont the saabs have issues of the oil.sludging up knackering the bottom end?

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Seen a Renault 5 with the VAG 20VT in it so dont see why you wouldnt get it in a 6 with a bit of work.

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aaron6 wrote:
atterz wrote:
Trionic 5 2.3 Saab aero engine, loads of torque!
dont the saabs have issues of the oil.sludging up knackering the bottom end?


As long as the correct oil has been used and always changed on time then it's not much of a problem. One of those engines in a 306 would be very interesting as even in a heavy Saab the mid range is savage.

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matt evans

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aaron6 wrote:
atterz wrote:
Trionic 5 2.3 Saab aero engine, loads of torque!
dont the saabs have issues of the oil.sludging up knackering the bottom end?


In fairness ive seen a few VAG 1.8t's do the same, especially with long life service intervals. When i was at Skoda we did loads of engine swaps because of blocked pick up pipes etc etc.

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Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile.

Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 11:18
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bennn wrote:
Seen a Renault 5 with the VAG 20VT in it so dont see why you wouldnt get it in a 6 with a bit of work.


Never seen that,but my m8 that had a MR evo 8 didLOL

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Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 13:26
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I bet a Evo engine wouldn't be far awayThumbs up

Turbo is on front though,but not a problem I wouldn't think.

Mate it to a Galant gearbox or summat like thatWink

Mines sat on floor in garage if he requires any sizes Thumbs up

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Rolls Royce Allison fits, I checked, just on the offchance.

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Evolution Powered 205 GTi...

Could be done in a 306 shell. Probably easier too with the extra space

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EW12 on bodies.

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Im thinking instead of super urbocharging standart engine going for a volvo t5 ,s2000 or some else 200-300hp engine. It would be cheaper I guess
Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 15:21
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wasn't that 205 'evo' powered pgu above fairly shoddy? i read it on here so there is ever possibility that it was complete bo***cks

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I have no idea. I didn't read the magazine, I just remembered it from a picture I saw once (synesthesia)

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i wouldnt bother it would change the nature of the car too much and be a right f*ck about if you ask me.
Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 17:13
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How about a gti180 lump with a dp engineering turbo kit, i believe the turbo kit is around 2500 euro, ive been eying one up for my gti180 205 ;-)

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Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 18:37
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Trionic 7 Saabs did sludge the bottom ends as i experianced dropping the sump in my Dads. The Trionic 5 "Red Top" Engines dont.

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Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 18:51
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Megane 225 engine. No idea of the layout, but pretty tuneable...RS Tuning have one kicking out 485 BHP Thumbs up

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Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 21:07
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