Post #76
You need to post about I've broken the handbrake after one day how do I tighten the cables again.
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 anth
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colchester Registered: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 3,651 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 09:30
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #77
I have one of the original flywheels from early 2009 fitted to my engine. I haven't experienced any problems with it. I am running a genuine Valeo starter, not sure if this makes a difference?? My feeling is maybe aftermarket starters being fitted are contributing to the issue? Discuss.________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 09:50
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russbez
Seasoned Pro  Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
Post #78
webzta wrote: Does yours make the "noise" when starting the car? nope just sounds same as before iirc ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 10:06
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anth
Seasoned Pro Location: Colchester Registered: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 3,651 Status: Offline |
Post #79
stan_306gti6 wrote: I have one of the original flywheels from early 2009 fitted to my engine. I haven't experienced any problems with it. I am running a genuine Valeo starter, not sure if this makes a difference?? My feeling is maybe aftermarket starters being fitted are contributing to the issue? Discuss. As far as im aware the starter on that car is original. Unless it was changed pre 70k and not in the service history. perhaps we can get a viedo up of the noise if its possible this weekend. |
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Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 11:58
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #80
If it is a genuine original then bang goes my theory Anth!  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 12:40
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #81
I guess no one saw my post last year but anyways, is the standard flywheel not hardened on the starter ring? I know the ones I made ford at my old place were induction hardend to more rocwell than the starter was so the starter became the consumable part and wore out 1st. If these lightened flywheels are softer than the teeth on the starter motor then the flywheel becomes the consumable. Has this been tested? Just a thought.  ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 13:11
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #82
What material are these new flywheels made from?________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 13:12
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #83
Billet Steel mate, but I'm not sure which grade. Rich will know though I would have thought.________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 13:18
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #84
Are the starter teeth hardened? If not, it makes sense to me that the motors are occasiinally killing the wheels. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 13:26
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #85
I'm guessing they are hardened, as like I say mine has been on for 3 years and is trouble free.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 13:36
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honestly3k
Seasoned Pro  Location: Berkhamsted Registered: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 2,390 Status: Offline |
Post #86
Had mine on for about 6 months now with no issues. Can even see the flywheel through the top of the gearbox and the teeth on it are still unmarked. Has to be an issue with aftermarket starter motors imo________________________________________ ''Oh, it does handle like a golf!'' Why drive a Golf....when you can drive a GTi-6? |
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Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 14:09
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #87
My first one stripped the teeth but rich sent me a newer one using the different steel and I had no issues with that, I only sold it as I couldn't see the point in having it with all the power. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 16:14
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aaron6
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Post #88
Be interesting to hear if they are hardened as the one danny had that stripped teeth wasn't I think. Danny's one had a genuine pug starter too.________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 16:22
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anth
Seasoned Pro Location: Colchester Registered: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 3,651 Status: Offline |
Post #89
honestly3k wrote: Had mine on for about 6 months now with no issues. Can even see the flywheel through the top of the gearbox and the teeth on it are still unmarked. Has to be an issue with aftermarket starter motors imo The same can be said for the Nile visually absoloutley no damage first thing I looked at- But then you can never be sure with the limited amount you can see. |
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Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 16:41
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #90
aaron6 wrote: Be interesting to hear if they are hardened as the one danny had that stripped teeth wasn't I think. Danny's one had a genuine pug starter too. I bought my flywheel in the same batch as Danny's, as I bought the two at the same time. His stripped out fairly quickly. The fact that he had a genuine Valeo starter thickens the plot somewhat too...  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 19:28
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #91
anth wrote: honestly3k wrote: Had mine on for about 6 months now with no issues. Can even see the flywheel through the top of the gearbox and the teeth on it are still unmarked. Has to be an issue with aftermarket starter motors imo The same can be said for the Nile visually absoloutley no damage first thing I looked at- But then you can never be sure with the limited amount you can see. You will find that certain parts of the flywheel ring gear will appear unmarked. This is because the engine always comes to rest in the same position, and therefore it is always the same part of the ring gear which gets the torque applied to it when the starter starts to turn. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 19:30
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buzzbrightyear
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Post #92
True, when mine did it I rocked her a few times in 1st to get it past the bad teeth bit and then started her upstan_306gti6 wrote: anth wrote: honestly3k wrote: Had mine on for about 6 months now with no issues. Can even see the flywheel through the top of the gearbox and the teeth on it are still unmarked. Has to be an issue with aftermarket starter motors imo The same can be said for the Nile visually absoloutley no damage first thing I looked at- But then you can never be sure with the limited amount you can see. You will find that certain parts of the flywheel ring gear will appear unmarked. This is because the engine always comes to rest in the same position, and therefore it is always the same part of the ring gear which gets the torque applied to it when the starter starts to turn. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 1st Feb 2012 at 19:36
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Joka-cro
Newbie  Location: Varazdin Registered: 07 Oct 2013 Posts: 28 Status: Offline |
Post #93
Whats the weight of that flywheel ??? I know that original flywheeil weight is 6.3 kg and company in Croatia made on my facilitate to 4.9 kg and the difference can be felt  |
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #94
3.6kg. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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