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I'll be interested pending results from the guinea pigs 
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 cjm_harris
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 Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 13:04
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cwspellowe
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First guinea pig will be me on my road trip. Am going to get enough stuff for a couple of sets on friday along with different shims etc. Visiting family in Blackpool but will be taking my tool set down for adjustments  Hi mum and dad, mind if i set up camp round the back? Wonder if they need some for the 207307?  ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 13:07
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greenbelt
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I'm in 1. eddiebeano 2. shadows entity 3. Ballardpaul 4. davewagon (maybe) 5. woking rob (maybe) 6. judge dead (maybe) 7. daveyboy (depending on weight) 8. Karoshi (assuming you can post to Australia) 9. Greenbelt 10. ________________________________________ Standard Black 6Black HBSC6  |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 17:03
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phillipm
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daveyboy wrote: I think tubular steel could well end up lighter than Phill's solid alloy ones, not sure if you intend to use solid bar or tube stock but you could be onto a winner if you can actually make them lighter. I'll be interested in a set if they are. I'd be very surprised if they were, the alloy bodies are drilled all the way down the centre, the wall thickness is pretty thin in the centre of the bar, it's only thickened up at either end where the spanner hexes are.  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 17:43
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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phillipm wrote: daveyboy wrote: I think tubular steel could well end up lighter than Phill's solid alloy ones, not sure if you intend to use solid bar or tube stock but you could be onto a winner if you can actually make them lighter. I'll be interested in a set if they are. I'd be very surprised if they were, the alloy bodies are drilled all the way down the centre, the wall thickness is pretty thin in the centre of the bar, it's only thickened up at either end where the spanner hexes are. Bugger, they felt heavy as lead to me, maybe I need to get down the gym ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 17:45
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welshpug!
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I'll be willing guinea pig No2 ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 17:48
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phillipm
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Post #32
That's the bolts more than anything, and the balls in the joints are oversized compared to the bore too, the links themselves only weigh ~96 grams IIRC________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 17:48
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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I see. Yours are M10 right? Not looked at one for ages...________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 17:50
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cwspellowe
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Post #34
Speak of the devil  Would be a nice surprise if they're lighter but I doubt it, Phil's are hardly made of lead! ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 17:52
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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I think it's possible, but they would have to be thinwall T45 or similar to be up to the job and still light enough. For the 100 grams difference it's probably not worth the hassle.Typo, 10 grams difference ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 17:56
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cwspellowe
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Post #36
Just had a bit of a setback, waiting for clarification. Been quoted a price for parts and asked if I needed the rod ends. Don't know if they're confused as I was originally only asking about fab'd turnbuckles but if the price doesn't include rod ends it's going to get very expensive very quickly.Just waiting for an email back now. Their catalogue shows the turnbuckles with rod ends so I hope it's not just the bars at that price! ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 18:03
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cwspellowe
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Right just had the bad news, no the turnbuckles dont include rod ends, would have to get them separately. Their catalogue is a bit, well, misleading, although they did seem rather cheap!Will have a rethink about costs and let people know. May just give people the choice of PTFE/bronze or PTFE/kevlar lined rod ends and let them decide. The PTFE/kevlar ones are going to be about £15 more than the PTFE/bronze ones. ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 18:24
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phillipm
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daveyboy wrote: I think it's possible, but they would have to be thinwall T45 or similar to be up to the job and still light enough You'd need to be around 0.6mm wall thickness to match 'em. 0.5mm or smaller to make 'em lighter because of the weight of the nuts either end. Best not put the paint on too thick either Sounds like they've Owained your quotes right up Chris! ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 20:16
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cwspellowe
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Post #39
mmhmm, be lucky to get them below £80 at this rate by the time i include postage. Best hope the guinea pigs survive at that price ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 22:52
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eddiebeano
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I'll be a willing guinea pig!________________________________________ team: Stealth |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 22:58
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cwspellowe
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Post #41
i cant let everyone be guinea pigs or i'll be majorly out of pocket!________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 23:00
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judge dead
Regular  Location: Scotland Registered: 30 Jul 2011 Posts: 397 Status: Offline |
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i may be intersted in this but depends on how prices end up w/o delivery as il pick them up  cause i dont need drop links but i do like to fit shiney bits  shame not much else is shiney o well lol |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 23:12
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owain
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phillipm wrote: Sounds like they've Owained your quotes right up Chris! That's the last thing *anyone* wants! ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 23:32
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cwspellowe
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Post #44
Right, sorry fellas but going to have to cancel this.Finally got a reply and even with a group discount we'd be talking around the £110 mark delivered to your door, so not really worth it considering Phil's aren't much more and are much shinier. I'll happily point people in the right direction if they want to make their own but a lot of misleading advertising on the supplier's part means the original price has doubled. Gah. ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 19th Oct 2011 at 23:56
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cjm_harris
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owain wrote: phillipm wrote: Sounds like they've Owained your quotes right up Chris! That's the last thing *anyone* wants! I like how that is catching on Plus, gash on the quote side of things ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 20th Oct 2011 at 08:45
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cwspellowe
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Post #46
Right, good news everyone!Ive managed to knock them down on price a bit. They're more expensive than i originally thought but if i get ten definite names i can supply these for £77 posted for the ptfe/kevlar ones or £68 posted for the ptfe/bronze ones. If more than ten people want them they will be the same price over and above this only during the group buy. After it's done it'd be roughly £105 a set delivered. It's a pretty hefty discount they've offered, around 25%, so it's a good opportunity! I would however need payment in full from everyone before i could place the order as i don't have much cash spare. Ive ordered one set for tomorrow so i can road test them. In the mean time if anyone still interested could add their names to the new list i will probably leave it running til the start of November before making them. Expect delivery of them within 5 days of the group buy ending. ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 20th Oct 2011 at 12:34
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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phillipm wrote: daveyboy wrote: I think it's possible, but they would have to be thinwall T45 or similar to be up to the job and still light enough You'd need to be around 0.6mm wall thickness to match 'em. 0.5mm or smaller to make 'em lighter because of the weight of the nuts either end. Best not put the paint on too thick either Did you go out and start weighing up bits of tube?  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 20th Oct 2011 at 15:25
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phillipm
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Post #48
I, err, well, alright, I'm sad enough to have a list of DIN nut and bolt weights by the desk...________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 20th Oct 2011 at 15:46
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cwspellowe
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Post #49
 Mine are getting here tomorrow, just need to find some suitable M10's and nylocs  ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 20th Oct 2011 at 17:42
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cwspellowe
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Post #50
 they're here!Think they're almost definitely heavier than Phil's now i've had a set in my hands but they feel really good quality. Clearance seems fine even with the spacers too so all's good. Got them on my car for the weekend, will report back on any findings over the next few days. Lovely jubbly   As a definite, will be about £77 for these posted now i've confirmed postage costs etc. The ones above are the kevlar/ptfe ones, can get cheaper bronze joints instead though if anyone's not arsed. ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 21st Oct 2011 at 13:27
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