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pebbles167

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Post #26
Ill agree with you on the heavy clutch, at least in heavy traffic it can be a pain. I'm quite fond of the steering though, fairly weighty with plenty of feel. Unlike the golf which felt like it had knackered ball as standard. On a long journey then i will side with you in the fact the golf will probably be better on fuel, quieter and generally more relaxing to drive. And yes yours doesn't look half bad. But every man and his dog owns a vw. Just dont rat it or eurostyle it or any of that shit for Christ's sake and end up like every other "tidyvagfag"

Still as a vehicle id take the 6 any day.

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Pile of turd. Get a pd150 then remap it and it'll blow up! What a shit engine the pd130 is more reliable. And with your remap the fuel economy will be just as shocking as the as the car is itself. Golfs completely died when the mk4 came out and havent lived again since. /thread

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Fair bit of car for £1200. Looks quite good in black, especially a 3 door. I didn't realise the prices had gone that low.

I have driven a mk4 v6 4Motion a fair bit. The noise was probably the best thing about it yet it felt much smoother to drive compared to any 6 i've driven. The 4wd factor was crap though.



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    walker_texasranger

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    Post #29
    So let me get this right..... You have sold the best hot hatch of the golf mk4/GTI-6 era, to buy a mk4 Golf..... and then come onto a 306 GTI-6 enthusiasts site to try and get someone to say 'well done mate, thats a much better car that the 6' er, hello?

    Remapped or not, they look ugly, everyones got one/had one and they handle like they are mounted on marshmallows.

    If you like your Golf, that's great Thumbs up but don't come on here and try to get praise or start telling people that they are wrong when we say your car isnt as good.... I'm sure that there's a VAG forum you can join? Maybe go on there and tell them you own a golf, used to own a 306 and the 306 handled better?

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    Posted 19th Sep 2011 at 10:48
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    darrengti

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    Post #30
    mattgti6phase2 wrote:
    Get a pd150 then remap it and it'll blow up!


    Why is this the general consencous? My Leon has a PD150 lump in it. Remapped to 200bhp and 330lb/ft for the last 20k with no issues other than eating front tyres. Now on 85k.

    Yes its quick in a straight line but it's dull, however it doesn't break down. (touches lots of wood!)

    And it'll be for sale next month, £5,750...
    Posted 19th Sep 2011 at 14:48
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    atterz

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    Post #31
    Uninspiring, boring, 18 inch wheels on a "Hot hatch" ? Nah not getting it? And a 6/Rallye/306 is fine on a long journey.

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    Post #32
    and i thought i was bad selling my 6 and getting an st200, mk4 golfs are just horrible.
    Posted 19th Sep 2011 at 17:01
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    walker_texasranger

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    Post #33
    "Fiat blah blah.......over to the the Golf GTI, 2 Litres, 20 valves a turbo and 150 horse power...... Then theres the INCREDIBLE 306 gti, 2 litres, 16 vales and no turbo but it is the LIGHTEST car here. And its engine kicks out 167bhp, so its also the most powerful. Couple that with its 6 speed gearbox and you have no trouble guessing the winner in a straight dash down the runway......"

    "And what happens when it all gets bent and twisted" Fiat blah blah.... Pictures of golf bouncing and wallowing round with its wheels in the air......." the 306, however, is in a different league...."

    Sorry, couldn't help myself, I love that vid LOL

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    Post #34
    darrengti wrote:
    mattgti6phase2 wrote:
    Get a pd150 then remap it and it'll blow up!


    Why is this the general consencous? My Leon has a PD150 lump in it. Remapped to 200bhp and 330lb/ft for the last 20k with no issues other than eating front tyres. Now on 85k.

    Yes its quick in a straight line but it's dull, however it doesn't break down. (touches lots of wood!)

    And it'll be for sale next month, £5,750...


    PD 150 lumps were also known as having a "chocolate camshaft"

    I had the mk1 leon FR 150 tdi, 42k miles, full seat history 1 owner etc..

    I had that mapped to 194bhp 320lb/ft torque, was quite a animal, however 3 k miles later turbo shit itself and then hyrolocked the engine spitting a conrod out in the process, only a matter of time for yours matey

    I do have a Golf mk4 at the moment, granted it isnt a gti6, but im pretty pleased with it all round, im not a racing driver so unless im on a track with it im not really arsed how it handles, its actually not that bad once lowered a little with the TT rack on it, its also very torquey, comfortable and very good on fuel with it being the gttdi 130, + all the trick bits on it, cruise/full recaro heated leather

    To come onto a GTi 6 owners and try flogging s golf off as a much better car is worse than p*ssing in the wind

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    cwspellowe

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    Post #35
    vernam616 wrote:
    darrengti wrote:
    mattgti6phase2 wrote:
    Get a pd150 then remap it and it'll blow up!


    Why is this the general consencous? My Leon has a PD150 lump in it. Remapped to 200bhp and 330lb/ft for the last 20k with no issues other than eating front tyres. Now on 85k.

    Yes its quick in a straight line but it's dull, however it doesn't break down. (touches lots of wood!)

    And it'll be for sale next month, £5,750...


    PD 150 lumps were also known as having a "chocolate camshaft"


    Bingo. VW denied it was a widespread problem but they offered up to 100% goodwill on repairs if the car had FVWSH Hmm

    This whole "just remap it" culture annoys me, of course stuff will break. Manufacturers DO run a map that's usually a compromise between economy and performance, but they only fit parts rated to whatever output they design. Start pumping excessive torque through standard parts and they will go wrong.

    An early PD150 may be capable of 200+bhp and whatever lbft, doesn't mean it's built to do that though. Just reprogramming the ECU doesn't make components stronger Roll eyes

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    darrengti wrote:
    mattgti6phase2 wrote:
    Get a pd150 then remap it and it'll blow up!


    Why is this the general consencous? My Leon has a PD150 lump in it. Remapped to 200bhp and 330lb/ft for the last 20k with no issues other than eating front tyres. Now on 85k.

    Yes its quick in a straight line but it's dull, however it doesn't break down. (touches lots of wood!)

    And it'll be for sale next month, £5,750...


    Your car is due to shit its camshafts very soon, probably taking the whole engine with it. I'd get shot of that sharpish if i were you, especially since you had it remapped Unsure

    Just google 'mk4 golf 150 pd engine' and have a good read!

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    musclebeach

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    Post #37
    This is what i was saying and i agree Honestly....

    I'm swaying towards something like this now - find me any issues with that? Tidy A3?

    Only downside i can see is that awful blue plastic interior

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    Vernam can i ask something, did you have your Leon long?
    If so then did you let the turbo spool down for a minute after parking up 95% of the time? Or is this a myth?

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    Post #39
    freind had one, pile of shit and slow as fook
    and johns right about the marshmellows.

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    bubbagti6

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    Post #40
    bought a v6 4 motion to replace a mk2 golf gti 8v.
    it was ok but i preferred the mk2 as a drivers car.
    so much so that i went back to my mk2.

    nice car though. if you like it fair enough. balls to everyone else

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    musclebeach wrote:
    Vernam can i ask something, did you have your Leon long?
    If so then did you let the turbo spool down for a minute after parking up 95% of the time? Or is this a myth?


    What do you mean "spool down"? Do you mean using the likes of a turbo timer? Only problems I've heard of with turbo'd cars is letting the heat dissipate after a run but Dunno

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    musclebeach

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    I mean letting the engine run for 30 secs/1 min after stopping somewhere

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    To be honest the car very very rarely got driven hard, i had it 3 months and covered litrally 2000 miles, it was mainly used around town driven mostly by the missus for school run etc..

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    306crazy

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    The 306 is by far the better drivers car but as for everyday the golf is more managable. The 6 got loads of compliments when people got in it,but the golf gets more for its looks. Its not alot quicker in the straight but i cant denie the 6 is the better handling its just not for me as everyday use ie short journeys.

    Plus you can get 400bhp for as much as you'd spend supercharging a 6
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    looks alright imo, not a bad buy Smile

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    cwspellowe

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    306crazy wrote:
    The 306 is by far the better drivers car but as for everyday the golf is more managable. The 6 got loads of compliments when people got in it,but the golf gets more for its looks. Its not alot quicker in the straight but i cant denie the 6 is the better handling its just not for me as everyday use ie short journeys.

    Plus you can get 400bhp for as much as you'd spend supercharging a 6


    Doh power isn't everything, when will you see that?

    As for cars getting "looks", the 306 was designed to be understated on purpose. Having a golf with 18" wheels isn't exactly understated...

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    306crazy

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    looks alright imo, not a bad buy Smile


    Thanks bud

    End of the day i wouldnt buy a golf and keep it standard they need things doing to them to make them look good.

    You cant say anything about understated?? You had a mint lookin sigma and sprayed it yellow :/
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    306crazy wrote:
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    looks alright imo, not a bad buy Smile


    Thanks bud

    End of the day i wouldnt buy a golf and keep it standard they need things doing to them to make them look good.

    You cant say anything about understated?? You had a mint lookin sigma and sprayed it yellow :/


    I never said my car was understated. In fact it's quite the opposite. That was my doing though, it was understated when it left the factory.

    You were saying your Golf gets more looks than your 306 did. Unless you also painted yours yellow my point still stands.

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    eitherway a 205 is better than both Superman
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    eitherway a 205 is better than both Superman
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    Thats got to be a joke!
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