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 hovis16
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,304 Status: Offline |
Post #26
Had avo gtx coilovers for a week! Great on a flat road..,thats it! Broke my windscreen and made the car feel like it was falling to bits! IN DAMPNERS I TRUST!________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
 Posted 16th Jun 2011 at 15:07
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,304 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Besidés abit of body roll is good for A/B roads  ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 16th Jun 2011 at 15:10
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro  Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #28
I upgraded my setup to KW v2 coilovers and a few other bits. For the road I have them on the softest setting and although they are awesome on the smooth roads, the bumpy backroads it doesnt handle as well as it used to on my Avo dampers/eibach springs setup.Out on the track though with them wound up to the hardest they will go, are soo much better than the previous setup  ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged  [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 16th Jun 2011 at 18:15
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Where is best to get standard equivalents from without open wallet surgery at Peugeot? Bilsteins or similar.________________________________________ I'm Si btw Night Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper  - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 17th Jun 2011 at 01:39
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #30
Peugeot rears aren't that expensive, its just the fronts that can be.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Jun 2011 at 01:49
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davedgti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: whiston, prescot Registered: 28 May 2006 Posts: 1,651 Status: Offline |
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tvrfan007 wrote: Where is best to get standard equivalents from without open wallet surgery at Peugeot? Bilsteins or similar. Peugeot rears, Bilstein B4 fronts with Eibach springs are a good cheap set up. ________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6™ |
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Posted 17th Jun 2011 at 02:34
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro  Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #32
I run a.p coilovers. Researched different brands and for what I paid they are damn good. They aren't the most expensive but certainly aren't the cheapest. The ride is certainly firm but at the same time pretty well damped. Body roll is minimal but it allows you to feel everything that's going on. Tbh it's very hard to get a good in between set up as our roads are just pot hole ridden and un even, so where you may gain in some areas you lose in others. As said above sometimes body roll is a good thing, especially in the wet but 9 times out 10 minimal body roll is better. Don't buy cheap shit coilys as you'll just upset yourself.  ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG  5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™  I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 17th Jun 2011 at 14:25
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will130787
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading Registered: 24 Sep 2009 Posts: 3,933 Status: Offline |
Post #33
mattgti6phase2 wrote: I run a.p coilovers. Researched different brands and for what I paid they are damn good. They aren't the most expensive but certainly aren't the cheapest. The ride is certainly firm but at the same time pretty well damped. Body roll is minimal but it allows you to feel everything that's going on. Tbh it's very hard to get a good in between set up as our roads are just pot hole ridden and un even, so where you may gain in some areas you lose in others. As said above sometimes body roll is a good thing, especially in the wet but 9 times out 10 minimal body roll is better. Don't buy cheap shit coilys as you'll just upset yourself. How are you getting body roll? The rears on the bump stops   ________________________________________ Ex Astor 6 owner Also an Ex owner of a Bianca 6 Now an ex owner of a 2005 9-3 2.0T 210bhp Aero Swedish Saloon thing!! Soon to be 250bhp.... Now driving Mk5 Golf GTTdi, mile muncher But still live for the 306 |
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Posted 17th Jun 2011 at 14:34
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #34
quote: How are you getting body roll? The rears on the bump stops Haha is it f*ck it can go another 40mm  That would be pointless though. Anyway a 10mm trim on the rear bump stops and she's a beaut. I can still have a full car to As for the body roll it's very slightly but only if your on the limit. Anyway you should be only too familiar with body roll in that vectra of yours ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 17th Jun 2011 at 17:02
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #35
Mine rolls like a double decker bus with a fat kid on the top deck ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 17th Jun 2011 at 17:06
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #36
Bouncing is generally spring rate versus damper rates being out. My front springs are too soft and short so have to currently use loads of damping to stop them going coilbound. It bounces a bit, more on hard corners than anything. I'm not really sure the cheap ones will work well when they get hot. Also longevity would be an issue. You get what you pay for... ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 17th Jun 2011 at 20:41
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24seven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #37
Lowering a car alone won't reduce body roll and make it handle better, if you don't match the springs and dampers you can actually make it worse. Read up on the relationship between roll centre, centre of gravity and roll couple. Manufacturers spend a lot of time and money researching and designing suspension geometry and damper & spring rates before they send cars out to the dealers. If you want to improve your car's handling without compromising the ride, buy OEM. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 18th Jun 2011 at 01:20
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atterz
Seasoned Pro  Location: Stafford Registered: 18 Feb 2011 Posts: 1,134 Status: Offline |
Post #38
Fancy making me some coilovers Phil, i hate slowing down for speedbumps!________________________________________ owain wrote: A GTI-6 with a good dashboard and the seats down can outsprint an E46 M3 in July. |
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Posted 20th Jun 2011 at 03:51
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #39
^You slow down for speedbumps?They're speedbumps, not slowbumps, speed up! ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 20th Jun 2011 at 04:02
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atterz
Seasoned Pro Location: Stafford Registered: 18 Feb 2011 Posts: 1,134 Status: Offline |
Post #40
And break somthing with my sub-standard suspension!!________________________________________ owain wrote: A GTI-6 with a good dashboard and the seats down can outsprint an E46 M3 in July. |
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Posted 20th Jun 2011 at 04:05
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #41
I can't remember ever slowing down for a speedbump ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 20th Jun 2011 at 04:08
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atterz
Seasoned Pro Location: Stafford Registered: 18 Feb 2011 Posts: 1,134 Status: Offline |
Post #42
Make me some dampers!!!!  8)________________________________________ owain wrote: A GTI-6 with a good dashboard and the seats down can outsprint an E46 M3 in July. |
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Posted 20th Jun 2011 at 04:12
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #43
Send me a blank but signed cheque!!! ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 20th Jun 2011 at 04:18
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #44
atterz wrote: Make me some dampers!!!! 8)Just think... that car had £1500 of coilovers on it a year ago ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 20th Jun 2011 at 04:23
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #45
^^Just think, you had a half decent car a year ago! :p________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 20th Jun 2011 at 04:34
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #46
phillipm wrote: ^^Just think, you had a half decent car a year ago! :p Yeah it wasn't bad, but this one has a lot more potential in a very amusing Swedish barge kind of a way. Its certainly quicker and thats before its mapped ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 20th Jun 2011 at 04:44
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atterz
Seasoned Pro Location: Stafford Registered: 18 Feb 2011 Posts: 1,134 Status: Offline |
Post #47
Tell me about it, second 306 i have had to start from scratch! No chance of me finding 1500 quid though to sort it properly, move in to my house on the 12th August.________________________________________ owain wrote: A GTI-6 with a good dashboard and the seats down can outsprint an E46 M3 in July. |
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Posted 20th Jun 2011 at 23:20
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snillet
Newbie  Location: Ytterby / Sweden Registered: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 47 Status: Offline |
Post #48
adam b wrote: phillipm wrote: ^^Just think, you had a half decent car a year ago! :p Yeah it wasn't bad, but this one has a lot more potential in a very amusing Swedish barge kind of a way. Its certainly quicker and thats before its mapped I´ve seen my fair bit of Swedish barge:s with "potential", i´m not convinced.... ________________________________________ Member of Peugeot Sport Club Swedenhttp://www.peugeot-sport-club.com/ My son: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzjSBKkMHDA |
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Posted 21st Jun 2011 at 02:11
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #49
snillet wrote: adam b wrote: phillipm wrote: ^^Just think, you had a half decent car a year ago! :p Yeah it wasn't bad, but this one has a lot more potential in a very amusing Swedish barge kind of a way. Its certainly quicker and thats before its mapped I´ve seen my fair bit of Swedish barge:s with "potential", i´m not convinced.... No? Guess it depends what you want from a car. I want an estate that will carry all four of us to the south of france or germany in a day in real comfort and safety but also get 30+mpg and have over 300BHp. Also be a track car when needed and have something about it I like. Not asking much eh?! So its currently a V70 T5 (2001). Had a pretty quick 306 and I did like it. Not big enough any more. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 21st Jun 2011 at 02:18
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro  Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #50
adam b wrote: snillet wrote: adam b wrote: phillipm wrote: ^^Just think, you had a half decent car a year ago! :p Yeah it wasn't bad, but this one has a lot more potential in a very amusing Swedish barge kind of a way. Its certainly quicker and thats before its mapped I´ve seen my fair bit of Swedish barge:s with "potential", i´m not convinced.... No? Guess it depends what you want from a car. I want an estate that will carry all four of us to the south of france or germany in a day in real comfort and safety but also get 30+mpg and have over 300BHp. Also be a track car when needed and have something about it I like. Not asking much eh?! So its currently a V70 T5 (2001). Had a pretty quick 306 and I did like it. Not big enough any more. Taken a liking to pies with added pie?  ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 21st Jun 2011 at 04:45
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