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people pay thousands to achieve that kind of setup!________________________________________
230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys
Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R
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 rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Project thread here 309 3dr K20 Type R |
 Posted 31st May 2011 at 02:14
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mike306
Senior User  Location: Lancs Registered: 11 Jun 2005 Posts: 532 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Can do if you want Chris lad  ________________________________________ High boost '6 for weekends406 2.1 Executive for weekdays |
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Posted 31st May 2011 at 04:14
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mike306
Senior User Location: Lancs Registered: 11 Jun 2005 Posts: 532 Status: Offline |
Post #28
Ok, I've spoken to Bilstein UK, specialist pug and TVR garages (for a 3rd opinion), and as has already been suggested the verdict is they are only fit for the bin.Bilstein said the cost of replacing the casing would be £170, not taking into account if the insert was also bent. So basically a repair would cost more than a new damper. I've requested a refund, will see what happens...  ________________________________________ High boost '6 for weekends406 2.1 Executive for weekdays |
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Posted 31st May 2011 at 17:06
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CUJ
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southampton Registered: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 22,218 Status: Offline |
Post #29
These were sold to Ash in good faith (for £250) after being removed from my Rallye (which has been well documented I had a smack in last December resulting in it being scrapped). There was no visual sign of damage on either strut from memory, if there had been I'm pretty sure that Ash wouldn't have bought them from me in the first place. I didn't know they had been sold on until I got a PM about this today and it appears that he also sold them on in good faith, based on the advert I've seen.________________________________________ 340 horses |
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Posted 31st May 2011 at 18:51
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #30
I don't remember seeing any obvious damage to them when I transported them. I know Ash didn't fit them to his car so he wouldn't have known either.Bum! ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 31st May 2011 at 18:59
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berger
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bathurst Registered: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 1,068 Status: Offline |
Post #31
Do you have any photos of them from when you sold them to Roland Rat to verify the situation?________________________________________ Bang'in 7 gram rocks!I have one gear, GO! |
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Posted 31st May 2011 at 21:34
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CUJ
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 22,218 Status: Offline |
Post #32
No I don't have any photos of them and I don't see why I should be trying to prove anything. Ash removed the suspension from my car himself and assessed he would buy them there and then, therefore to my best knowledge I hadn't sold something which was damaged, and as others have mentioned there was no apparent visual damage.I have been liasing with Ash since I only found out about this at lunchtime and I'm also liaising with Mike who has now PM'd me. I would suggest that those people who aren't directly involved keep their comments to themselves until such time as the matter is resolved, as you have absolutely no idea what's being discussed off the forum with regards finding a solution to this. ________________________________________ 340 horses |
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Posted 31st May 2011 at 23:10
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
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CUJ wrote: I would suggest that those people who aren't directly involved keep their comments to themselves until such time as the matter is resolved, as you have absolutely no idea what's being discussed off the forum with regards finding a solution to this. Regardless of what is being discussed via PM the only fair resolution is that Ash refunds Mike and you refund Ash. The damage was clearly caused whist on your Rallye so anything but a full refund is unfair to Mike, and how you and Ash want to settle up between yourselves is up to you. ________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 31st May 2011 at 23:20
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
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Rich E wrote: CUJ wrote: I would suggest that those people who aren't directly involved keep their comments to themselves until such time as the matter is resolved, as you have absolutely no idea what's being discussed off the forum with regards finding a solution to this. Regardless of what is being discussed via PM the only fair resolution is that Ash refunds Mike and you refund Ash. The damage was clearly caused whist on your Rallye so anything but a full refund is unfair to Mike, and how you and Ash want to settle up between yourselves is up to you. As above those who arent involved should stay out of the matter. Im looking into the matter and trying to get a resolution that suits all parties. I could quite say no refund as it clearly states in my ad they were off a damaged car and to the best of mne and several other members knowledge they were fine,plus its taken a few weeks for this to come to light.If they had been bought off ebay in the same manner then Mike would have no leg to stand on. BUT As Jon has pointed out well get something sorted between the 3 of us im sure. |
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Posted 1st Jun 2011 at 00:22
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #35
Bad seller status ????________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 1st Jun 2011 at 03:11
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #36
buzzbrightyear wrote: Bad seller status ???? Do me and everyone a favour and f*ck off Me and Jon are sorting it so pipe down you flid! |
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Posted 1st Jun 2011 at 03:14
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #37
Bad seller thread needed also  ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 1st Jun 2011 at 03:14
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #38
buzzbrightyear wrote: Bad seller thread needed also  Whatever |
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Posted 1st Jun 2011 at 03:16
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mike306
Senior User Location: Lancs Registered: 11 Jun 2005 Posts: 532 Status: Offline |
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buzzbrightyear wrote: Bad seller status ???? Well, this certainly won't be needed. I have agreed to a fair settlement proposed by Jon and Ash. Hopefully we can all move on and forget about this unfortunate incident with reputations untarnished. ________________________________________ High boost '6 for weekends406 2.1 Executive for weekdays |
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Posted 3rd Jun 2011 at 03:38
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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it was a joke________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 3rd Jun 2011 at 14:48
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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Soooo, what's happening with the bendy casings then?  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 3rd Jun 2011 at 15:55
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JoeGTI-6
Regular  Location: Rugby/Helston Registered: 15 Oct 2011 Posts: 134 Status: Offline |
Post #42
Bump!!!Just searched and found this... The other morning on route to work I enthusiastically hit a rather harsh humpback bridge and became air bourne. Now I appear to have major tyre feathering issues and what appears to be a lot of toe - in. The heat generated in the tyre after a relatively short journey (20miles) is quite surprising and as I'm running Toyo T1 Rs there wearing pretty quickly  I haven't had a chance to put the car in the air yet and investigate but do you think I could have the same issue here? I'm running bilstein b4's with ebach springs. |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 20:56
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mik
Seasoned Pro  Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
Post #43
It would have to be a heck of a bang to bend strut casings. How long were you airborne for?? Tracking does need doing every few months, and "enthusiastic" driving does mean getting it done more often. On the basis of an internet diagnosis I'd say get it tracked and see what the "before" measurements were. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 18:07
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #44
Its suprisingly easy to bend a strut, I've managed to do a strut and the cast iron hub assembly hitting a kerb after sliding on some snow a few winters back, they are only about 3mm thick and not designed to cope with the kind of lateral loads inflicted by hard landings or sudden side impacts. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 19:24
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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Would a pothole that damaged a heel badly have damaged a strut and or hub________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 19:38
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mik
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
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daveyboy wrote: Its suprisingly easy to bend a strut, I've managed to do a strut and the cast iron hub assembly hitting a kerb after sliding on some snow a few winters back, they are only about 3mm thick and not designed to cope with the kind of lateral loads inflicted by hard landings or sudden side impacts. Is this because the car is French and made from recycled foil paper from Gauloise cigarette packets? ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 22:48
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #47
No, it's because if something didn't bend, then something vital would break instead.However, having stripped down the bent set of B8's (I've got them here), so long as the seals were okay in service they would probably have been fine*, there's no cracks in the casings, the bearings are okay, there's a little debris in the oil but that may be standard wear and tear anyway. New seals, oil and casings should see them right. *Not that I'm condoning doing it with any other bent struts unless you can strip and inspect them first mind! ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 22:54
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JoeGTI-6
Regular Location: Rugby/Helston Registered: 15 Oct 2011 Posts: 134 Status: Offline |
Post #48
I parted with £30 and got a kwik fit fitter to check the wheel alignment this afternoon. I would have done it myself but it was easier and quicker to get them to sort it. The chap said it was 30 out. I'm guessing 30 degrees?! He was a bit of a Peugeot nut as well which went down well. He checked underneath and apart from a leaking N/S driveshaft seal. Seems ok. Bit of a thread revive but was worried the other day. Never had a car go airborne like that before. Was a heavy landing! Cheers for your input guys. The 6 feels and handles good again. |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 23:33
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