Thanks Adam, there will most likely just be a lot of wheelspin unless i decide to try running it n/a for the day
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,640 Status: Offline |
Post #651
The shouldered washer i made has an outer diameter of 25mm, around 3mm thick so hopefully that will help spread the load and avoid distortion. I went with M8 capscrews for mine, havent managed to snap any yet! :fingerscrossed Thanks Adam, there will most likely just be a lot of wheelspin unless i decide to try running it n/a for the day ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
Posted 15th Feb 2016 at 19:40
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #652
Looking good mate I can't believe that you can still drive it with no lsd, even if I feather the throttle with mine in any typ of damp I can have wheel spin up to 100mph+ with no lad in the box. Fair play to you looks an absolute weapon. Pugfest this year?________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
Posted 15th Feb 2016 at 20:06
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #653
prism7guy wrote: The shouldered washer i made has an outer diameter of 25mm, around 3mm thick so hopefully that will help spread the load and avoid distortion. I went with M8 capscrews for mine, havent managed to snap any yet! :fingerscrossed Thanks Adam, there will most likely just be a lot of wheelspin unless i decide to try running it n/a for the day Pretty much exactly the same as mine, there's not a lot thickness there so needs something to spread the the load out so you can get enough clamping there. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 15th Feb 2016 at 20:08
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prism7guy
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Post #654
superchargedblack1997gti6 wrote: Looking good mate I can't believe that you can still drive it with no lsd, even if I feather the throttle with mine in any typ of damp I can have wheel spin up to 100mph+ with no lad in the box. Fair play to you looks an absolute weapon. Pugfest this year? Yeah it does make it a little tricky to drive without an lsd. The first 3 gears are pretty much useless if i try and accelerate whilst turning in the dry, and in the wet its happy to spin up in 4th aswell Yeah i'm hoping to go to pugfest, most likely be taking this car all being well, but i'm wanting to do a trackday at the Nordschleife on the 8th of April so that all depends on whether the car survives that I know what you mean about the subframe being quite weak in that area Phill, the previous washer i had used now looks like a taper washer ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
Posted 15th Feb 2016 at 20:40
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prism7guy
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Post #655
Time for another small update, I managed to finish the s/c coupler parts at work yesterday.IMG_6700 by Steve Count, on Flickr IMG_6702 by Steve Count, on Flickr IMG_6704 by Steve Count, on Flickr IMG_6706 by Steve Count, on Flickr IMG_6707 by Steve Count, on Flickr IMG_6709 by Steve Count, on Flickr I also made a spacer so my idler pulley can now fit on an auto tensioner. IMG_6698 by Steve Count, on Flickr And removed some of the material to make sure the belt won't rub since its an 8 rib belt rather than the standard 6 rib. This still needs a bit of fettling but it's getting there now. IMG_6699 by Steve Count, on Flickr Hopefully tomorrow i'll do some more work on the shrouds, and get round to ordering the an fittings and braided line needed to plumb the new oil cooler into the setup. ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
Posted 10th Dec 2017 at 19:26
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #656
In all my years as a member I have never once read this project thread and have had the pleasure in doing so for the last 90 mins.Some cracking fabrication skills and commitment to the cause in getting the supercharger set up working I just have one question though,did you ever sort out the paint patch in the rear bumper |
Posted 21st Feb 2016 at 00:41
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prism7guy
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Post #657
Thanks Ash No i haven't got round to sorting the paint, the car will never be taken anywhere near a show and shine contest so it doesnt really bother me too much, more of a battle scar thats badly covered up ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 23:12
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prism7guy
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Post #658
Finished off the radiator shroud today.IMG_6713 by Steve Count, on Flickr IMG_6715 by Steve Count, on Flickr IMG_6718 by Steve Count, on Flickr Next up is to sort out the oil lines and make a shroud for the oil cooler, maybe next weekend. ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
Posted 10th Dec 2017 at 19:27
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #659
finally! someone actually addressing the massive gaps allowing air to bypass all the cooling when you dispense with the standard cowling (and they wonder why they struggle to cool them...)________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 22nd Feb 2016 at 10:42
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stef306
Regular Location: lyme regis Registered: 20 Sep 2009 Posts: 201 Status: Offline |
Post #660
nice progress mate! ________________________________________ 1990 205 gti6 supercharged |
Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 18:48
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prism7guy
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Post #661
Thanks Stef.I was working on the car again last weekend, i had the inlet taken off the 'charger and i reckon it looks like the outer part of the lobes at the inlet end might just be starting to skim the outer housing which is whats causing the awful noise when it runs. I guess i didnt need to make the coupler setup after all then Oh well, it can only help extend the life of the next one. Does anyone know of a reputable company in the uk that will recondition one of these for a reasonable price? I'm thinking i might source the next one then send it off for fresh bearings etc before i fit it, hopefully that will make it last a little longer. ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 22:22
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stef306
Regular Location: lyme regis Registered: 20 Sep 2009 Posts: 201 Status: Offline |
Post #662
the rotor pack bearings cant be replaced from experience and gathered info as the bearings are crimped in. Snout bearings and seals are available on simply bearings etc. ________________________________________ 1990 205 gti6 supercharged |
Posted 1st Mar 2016 at 21:50
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #663
prism7guy wrote: Does anyone know of a reputable company in the uk that will recondition one of these for a reasonable price? I'm thinking i might source the next one then send it off for fresh bearings etc before i fit it, hopefully that will make it last a little longer. Should have bought a rotrex |
Posted 1st Mar 2016 at 22:17
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stef306
Regular Location: lyme regis Registered: 20 Sep 2009 Posts: 201 Status: Offline |
Post #664
but its no fun taking credit for other peoples work?.....________________________________________ 1990 205 gti6 supercharged |
Posted 1st Mar 2016 at 23:07
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #665
stef306 wrote: but its no fun taking credit for other peoples work?..... Haha true.im just playing and it's great to see others trying different things from the norm. I bet what you could pick on of the Eaton chargers up for is a fraction of a Rotrex |
Posted 1st Mar 2016 at 23:14
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #666
It's not when he's buying enough Eaton chargers to outdo the forum for hot air.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 2nd Mar 2016 at 03:05
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #667
Great updates & love your work ....Your like the James Dyson of the Forum he's known for his sucking Keep the updates Coming please |
Posted 2nd Mar 2016 at 07:59
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prism7guy
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Post #668
phillipm wrote: It's not when he's buying enough Eaton chargers to outdo the forum for hot air. Yeah, the cost is starting to shoot up with all these 'chargers i keep turning into scrap! Next question then seeing as you cant replace the rotor pack bearings, is there anywhere that sells brand new rotor packs? ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
Posted 2nd Mar 2016 at 16:40
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stef306
Regular Location: lyme regis Registered: 20 Sep 2009 Posts: 201 Status: Offline |
Post #669
ive not seen any john bond performance in the states might be work a email they are the specialist. Or just upgrade to m90 haha________________________________________ 1990 205 gti6 supercharged |
Posted 2nd Mar 2016 at 22:12
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prism7guy
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Post #670
I've been emailing a few american companies tonight, just waiting for responses. I found quite a few bad reviews on john bond which put me off a bit, i dont like the idea of paying a fortune for something plus all the shipping only to have problems and have to try and deal with returns with somewhere in america.I have seen a few brand new units for around $2,200 which is roughly £1600. Once again though, if im killing them with a problem with my setup i don't want to spend that amount only to scrap a new one at that price! I like the idea of an m90, but i don't want to have to re-design and make all the brackets, manifolds, pullies, pipework etc again from scratch, i can't use the machines at work for car parts anymore so im kind of stuck where i am for the time being For now i might just keep going through 'cheap' second hand units and maybe consider getting a boost gauge to try and monitor whats happening to boost pressure at the superchager outlet, hopefully that would give me an idea whether its getting a quick high pressure wave when i let off the throttle, or whether theres simply too much air for the Tial to get rid of when i close the throttle at high revs and the boost level is staying too high until the revs drop. ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
Posted 2nd Mar 2016 at 22:46
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #671
You'd need something fast responding to see it, and you want before and after charger sensors so you can see when your PR is spiking since you're running twin bodies - if you've a pressure spike behind and vacuum up front then your pressure ratio's (and hence reverse flow damaging the rotors) could be massive, even though the actual airflow is low.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 3rd Mar 2016 at 13:51
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prism7guy
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Post #672
I've been running it without the upstream throttle body since fitting the Tial Q dump valve, so there should only be pressure between the 'charger and throttle body, the thing i'm not sure about is whether there is the initial pressure spike when i close the throttle before the dump valve opens to release the air, or whether there is simply too much air being pumped through at high revs for one dump valve to handle causing a long period of above normal boost pressure if that makes sense.I can't believe how much air is coming out of the dump valve at idle, so god knows how much it's trying to dump when the 'charger is spinning at 12k. (Just for the record, i know i can actually roughly calculate that, its just a saying ) Oh yeah, i had a reply from the local Mercedes parts guy earlier, i can get an exchange unit from germany in around 3 working days for just shy of £1300+VAT Best get saving up then ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
Posted 3rd Mar 2016 at 19:12
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phillipm
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Post #673
Could be, they're only really good for a PR of about 2 on most eatons I think on the official specs? Have to check on the 45, don't use those dinky little blowers ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 3rd Mar 2016 at 21:08
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prism7guy
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Posted 3rd Mar 2016 at 22:20
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #675
prism7guy wrote: Oh yeah, i had a reply from the local Mercedes parts guy earlier, i can get an exchange unit from germany in around 3 working days for just shy of £1300+VAT Best get saving up then Should just buy my set up |
Posted 3rd Mar 2016 at 22:46
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