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daveyboy

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Post #251
What you guys want is one of these Yes

http://www.r-techwelding.co.uk/Mig_Welder/240V_Mig_Welders/Mig_Welder_R-Tech_IMIG160

Very smooth, infinitely adjustable voltage (Excellent arc stability for welding on thin sections) polarity reverse for welding gassless wire (Not that I reccommend it as gassles wire welds look awful) digtal displays for clear, accurate seeting of welding parameters time after time, 2 year warranty, serviced and bscked up by a UK based company, perfect really Smile

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Posted 16th Apr 2012 at 11:21
clen666

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Post #252
I need to learn how to weld Sad

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Posted 16th Apr 2012 at 11:30
Stuwee

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Post #253
daveyboy wrote:
What you guys want is one of these Yes

http://www.r-techwelding.co.uk/Mig_Welder/240V_Mig_Welders/Mig_Welder_R-Tech_IMIG160

Very smooth, infinitely adjustable voltage (Excellent arc stability for welding on thin sections) polarity reverse for welding gassless wire (Not that I reccommend it as gassles wire welds look awful) digtal displays for clear, accurate seeting of welding parameters time after time, 2 year warranty, serviced and bscked up by a UK based company, perfect really Smile


Spec is very good but does not give a price. Presuming it is best part of a grand.....

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Posted 16th Apr 2012 at 11:58
eskiiboi

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Post #254
Stuwee wrote:
daveyboy wrote:
What you guys want is one of these Yes

http://www.r-techwelding.co.uk/Mig_Welder/240V_Mig_Welders/Mig_Welder_R-Tech_IMIG160

Very smooth, infinitely adjustable voltage (Excellent arc stability for welding on thin sections) polarity reverse for welding gassless wire (Not that I reccommend it as gassles wire welds look awful) digtal displays for clear, accurate seeting of welding parameters time after time, 2 year warranty, serviced and bscked up by a UK based company, perfect really Smile


Spec is very good but does not give a price. Presuming it is best part of a grand.....


It says £594 inc VAT
Bottom right corner under the pic Smile
Posted 16th Apr 2012 at 12:02
welshpug!

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Post #255
it does give a price, £500 Shock ok if you do a lot of welding.

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Posted 16th Apr 2012 at 12:02
daveyboy

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Post #256
Stuwee wrote:
daveyboy wrote:
What you guys want is one of these Yes

http://www.r-techwelding.co.uk/Mig_Welder/240V_Mig_Welders/Mig_Welder_R-Tech_IMIG160

Very smooth, infinitely adjustable voltage (Excellent arc stability for welding on thin sections) polarity reverse for welding gassless wire (Not that I reccommend it as gassles wire welds look awful) digtal displays for clear, accurate seeting of welding parameters time after time, 2 year warranty, serviced and bscked up by a UK based company, perfect really Smile


Spec is very good but does not give a price. Presuming it is best part of a grand.....


£495 exc VAT Thumbs up

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Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 16th Apr 2012 at 12:07
daveyboy

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Post #257
welshpug! wrote:
it does give a price, £500 Shock ok if you do a lot of welding.


Thats cheap as chips for what you get, do the job you need, sell it after you do your job and it will work out better value than spending £250 on a piece of crap from B&Q that will have no resale value whatsoever and will give awful results no matter how good a welder you are anyway.

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R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.

Some of my services: (See my for sale threads)
Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 16th Apr 2012 at 12:13
welshpug!

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Post #258
you'd be surprised how long a clarke holds its value if looked after, plenty on the mig-welding forum after them.

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Posted 16th Apr 2012 at 12:28
daveyboy

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Post #259
welshpug! wrote:
you'd be surprised how long a clarke holds its value if looked after, plenty on the mig-welding forum after them.


But they are awful welders, and since most of the people that buy them don't know a good one from a bad one they get away with it.

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R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.

Some of my services: (See my for sale threads)
Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 16th Apr 2012 at 13:07
Stuwee

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Post #260
daveyboy wrote:

But they are awful welders, and since most of the people that buy them don't know a good one from a bad one they get away with it.


Sealey Mighty mig any good???

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Posted 16th Apr 2012 at 13:55
daveyboy

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Post #261
I don't really rate any hobby migs, they all use cheap nasty generic drive systems, have nasty transformers and shoddy casings. Inverter technogy is the future, solid state electronics, more adjustability, smoother output and less input current required from the mains. All of that in a smarter, lighter more useable package screams win to me. The 160 iMig has features and performance of inverters that are twice the price. For preference you always want to look at entry level pro kit as opposed to top level DIY kit, the difference is well worth the bit extra. And as for back up and service with Sealy/Clark, forget it.

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R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.

Some of my services: (See my for sale threads)
Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 16th Apr 2012 at 14:25
prism7guy

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Post #262
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[quote="cjm_harris"]If you want some more practice, fancy doing mine for me? Smile


I wouldn�t dare do any welding work on someone elses car, especially something such as a cage. I�m nowhere near good enough to do it I�m afraid.


[quote="birk"]If i dont get a welder sorted out soon, can i borrow yours steve, i need to sort my cradle out.

Why dont you get some spare metal and practice, its not that hard Smile


It�s not my welder, it�s my dad�s. I�ll ask him when he gets home if its ok for you to borrow it. I�m not too shabby with a proper decent welder if its somewhere near setup, but I cant find the instructions for my dads and what I assume is the amperage control is just two switches meaning there are 4 options, so I play about with them until im happy there is some penetration, then theres the wire feed rate. I don�t know if my dads is broken though as it wont do a stable arc (It could just be my s**tness though), but I remember my dads friend coming round to use it then went off and got his as my dads wasn�t running right.


[quote="matt evans"]Making good progress, The dog looks lovely as well.


Thanks and Thanks. Thumbs up


I�d love to have the spare cash to buy a welder like that Jim, but I have no space to keep one at the moment, and it would be a slight waste in my hands as I rarely need to use a welder at home, as I tend to take anything that needs welding to work and use the decent one there.

Tonight I got round to getting the passenger side seat bars in and the mounting brackets. I was going to have the passenger seat further out towards the door but after tacking in the mounts and trial sitting in it it became apparent that it would be very unpleasant for the passenger hitting their head on the cage, so I�m mounting the passenger seat the same way as I am the drivers. There should just be a nice little gap between the tops of the seats all being well. I hydrate 80�d the new welds and gave the other welds another coating of it too.

I�m going to order some blanking grommets to fill the holes in the floor from where I drilled out the spot welds holding the crossmembers down.

I�m busy tomorrow night so not much will be done but Wednesday I plan on starting to fettle the dash. I�m in two minds whether to just scrap it altogether and mount the clocks behind the steering wheel and make something to mount the required switches and gauges to, or whether to cut it down the left hand side like many others have done.
The dash is bloody heavy as it is and a major pain in the ass to have to keep lifting in and out whilst I work on the car. Laugh

I�m also in two minds about the heater matrix. I don�t have a heated windscreen yet so need some way to clear any condensation. I am tempted to cut away as much of the housing as I can and mount a couple of 120mm pc fans to the matrix and make some ducting or something to direct the air up to the windscreen. I just don�t know whether the fans will have enough air flow to make much difference, I could also scrap the matrix and use a spare pc watercooling rad that I have in its place which may work out easier. Hmm

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Tonights welding is slightly better than yesterdays i think. Smile

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Posted 23rd Nov 2017 at 19:09
phillipm

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Post #263
You'll spend so much time fine tuning a clarke/sealey heap to get a smooth, consistant weld that you may as well just spend the extra time working and buy a decent one with the extra wages LOL:

Both our MIG's are old transformer units but they're big old beasts with nice copper wound internals and heavy duty wire feeders, bas**rds to move anywhere though, and they don't play ball if the voltage on the supply drops when everyone gets in from work and sticks the kettle on.
In fact I might get one of those 250's instead LOL

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Posted 16th Apr 2012 at 21:14
daveyboy

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Post #264
Stephen, you really need to crank up the amps for your bracket to tube joints, I can't really see what the tube ends to sill plates look like but I expect it the same story there too. Penetration is key with mig, and acutely raised, rounded profiles like you can see in the pics indicates the weld is more sitting on top of the metal than sinking into it and properly fusing with the parent metal.
It's easy to fall into the trap of welding too cold, especially on cars as all of the bodywork burns through so easily, but on 2-3mm material you really do need to turn a 130 amp mig up pretty high to achieve a satisfactory result. If you melt through something you can always clean it up and reweld it, but metal that isn't well joined, especially when it comes to seat mountings or other safety critical stuff is bad news my friend.

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Some of my services: (See my for sale threads)
Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 16th Apr 2012 at 23:05
prism7guy

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Post #265
Thanks for the info Jim. Thumbs up

Would you recommend grinding away the current weld and re-doing with a higher amperage then?

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 06:54
daveyboy

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Post #266
prism7guy wrote:
Thanks for the info Jim. Thumbs up

Would you recommend grinding away the current weld and re-doing with a higher amperage then?


That would'nt be a bad idea chap Thumbs up

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Some of my services: (See my for sale threads)
Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 10:03
phillipm

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Post #267
Still having fun with paint?

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Posted 22nd Apr 2012 at 18:51
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Post #268
A little, i've got the dash bar, door cross bars, and the little vertical bits on the b pillar hoop primed with etch primer. The triangulation to the struts has been primed, top coated and lacquered. Whilst i was there i got round to getting rid of the last of that sound deadening tar stuff, so i painted that to match the engine bay colour and lacquered that too.

I decided to sack off the heater matrix, all in the name of saving weight.

I've spent most of today stripping any un-necessary wire from the looms, which is an awful lot so far and im only half way.

The dash has been cut in half and all the necessary bits trimmed to not catch the dash bar or door cross bar.

I think thats about it for this weekends progress, oh yeah, and i ground out some of the old welds for the seat bars and put in some fresh weld, checking for penetration on some spare 3mm steel before doing them.

I'm in a rush to get down to the pub tonight so will update with the few pictures i took when i get chance during the week.

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Posted 22nd Apr 2012 at 20:03
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Post #269
Nearly there then!
I still think Mr.Bean style would have been more fun.

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Posted 22nd Apr 2012 at 20:06
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Post #270
Alright mate been onto the supplier about the polycarb and they only do a bronze tint and not the slight green tint sorry. I will be updating my thread and the for sale thread soon if you want a look at them. There is only fronts fitted at the minute tho

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Posted 22nd Apr 2012 at 20:07
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Alright mate been onto the supplier about the polycarb and they only do a bronze tint and not the slight green tint sorry. I will be updating my thread and the for sale thread soon if you want a look at them. There is only fronts fitted at the minute tho

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Posted 22nd Apr 2012 at 20:26
prism7guy

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Post #272
Yeah Mr. Bean style would have been epic fun. Laugh

Cheers Chris, i'm still a little unsure what im going to do about the windows, i know the motors will never work again though as they have no wires now. LOL

Birk, i spoke to my dad the other night and he isnt happy lending the welder out but said you are welcome to come round and use it at my house if thats any use?

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Posted 22nd Apr 2012 at 20:34
306 Rxs

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Post #273
Eddy, i bought the bronze tinted one's and they are just fine, with an OEM look too, but just a little bit darker.
I will get more pics from mine soon, so you can check the actual look of it with bronze poly windows.

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Posted 22nd Apr 2012 at 21:38
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Post #274
That's ok Steve, I understand, I've gone and bought one, hopefully it will do the job, 150/5 sealey mig, £400 worth according to some sites, hardly used with wire and a bottle for £100. Just need to practice when I get done gas.

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Posted 22nd Apr 2012 at 23:43
prism7guy

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Tonight i did a bit of sealing up, i've polyurethaned the plastic scoop thing into the scuttle area where the heater normally gets fresh air from. Every time it rained it was just filling the footwell with water so i put the scoop back in to seal the hole and allow fresh air into the car when driving.
I also ran a bead round where the cage tube goes through the bulkhead, and blanked off where the heater matrix grommet, air con pipes and the rubber bung thing went through. I just used some .5mm thick ally sheet to blank them off to save weight.
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I've also done a bit more on the wire stripping, i cant remember for definite if it's ok to simply remove the central locking ecu and all the associated wires or not, so if anyone knows off-hand please let me know and save me a lot of searching round. LOL

Also, i'm not sure if i can ditch the mystery box from the drivers door.
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I cant remember whether i tried unplugging it when the car was running and whether it had any detrimental effect on the car or not, so once again if anyone knows what its for please let me know.

I spent ages yesterday tracing what wires were needed for the passengers electric wing mirror, to the best of my knowledge there is 7 of them, however i think im just going to get manual mirrors and sack off them wires too. LOL

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