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 adam b
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 Posted 27th Jun 2010 at 04:31
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #27
I'd have a Falken over any Goodyear tyre any day, Well Yoko, Hancook & Toyo to name a few too.________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 27th Jun 2010 at 04:54
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dented_vts
Regular  Location: london Registered: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 440 Status: Offline |
Post #28
I'm looking at an industry test of FalkenZiex ZE 512 (205/55R16V) and its shows the tyre in that size (note results for a tyre in one particular size are not comarable with the "same" tyre in a another size) has very poor wet braking and wet handling. It was tested scientifically against other tyres in that size on the exact same vehicle and equipment and performed not particularly well in all areas particularly in the wet weather tests.The Hankook k105 in the same size did well in all areas hence i recommended it over the others. If you have actual tst data that shows otherwise fair enough, but on the basis of these facts i suggested the Hankooks. |
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Posted 27th Jun 2010 at 05:10
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rich-6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bottoming out! Registered: 06 May 2007 Posts: 5,306 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Experience is better than an industry tyre testI ran the 512s on my old saxo nearly 5 years ago now  They werent that bad in the dry but shite in the rain, I think its a close call between the RAinsports and 912s personally________________________________________  RIP Pete Sims |
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Posted 27th Jun 2010 at 05:24
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dented_vts
Regular Location: london Registered: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 440 Status: Offline |
Post #30
rich-6 wrote: Experience is better than an industry tyre test I ran the 512s on my old saxo nearly 5 years ago now They werent that bad in the dry but shite in the rain, I think its a close call between the RAinsports and 912s personallywhat are you on about you can test how much grip there is in a driving situation. Im talking about tyres made now not 5 years ago- and using a tyre in one size and then using that impression to rate a tyre in another size is meaningless. |
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Posted 27th Jun 2010 at 05:28
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dented_vts
Regular Location: london Registered: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 440 Status: Offline |
Post #31
I shouldn't have said all Falken are crap they do some good tyres, but the ones i mentioned specifically and in that size are poor there is no debate. I just mentioned the Hankooks as i have seem them in the /55 size at very good prices and they perform as well as more expensive tyres, hence they look a steal. Remember performance of a particular model of tyre can vary significantly through the sizes so tests are only valid indications of the performance of the tyre in the tested size. |
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Posted 27th Jun 2010 at 05:34
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro  Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #32
True, but you mentioned the 512's. I've used them on my 106 and all I can say is i'm glad it was a 1.1, if I had the ability to go any faster in that car i'd be dead using those tyres.Decided i'm going for the RS2's, would love to try the PE2's but my budget's stretched as it is, never mind the fact my ICV and/or TPS have packed in over the last week  ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 27th Jun 2010 at 05:37
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dented_vts
Regular Location: london Registered: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 440 Status: Offline |
Post #33
cwspellowe wrote: True, but you mentioned the 512's. I've used them on my 106 and all I can say is i'm glad it was a 1.1, if I had the ability to go any faster in that car i'd be dead using those tyres. Decided i'm going for the RS2's, would love to try the PE2's but my budget's stretched as it is, never mind the fact my ICV and/or TPS have packed in over the last week Good choice RS2 a very good tyre-measured noise a little higher than the Hankook but overall a slightly better tyre IMHO. RE ICV they dont last do they! Your best bet may be euro car parts- i think they do the Morelli ones at about 48 plus VAT. |
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Posted 27th Jun 2010 at 16:00
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #34
512's where cr*p, the 912's are a huge leap in the right direction and for the price cannot be beaten until you get to PE2's etcBeen on 452's for years now and the same goes for them ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 28th Jun 2010 at 04:00
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Bickerton
Newbie Location: Bedworth Registered: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 7 Status: Offline |
Post #35
For me i currently use rainsport 2'sI find them amazing tyres for the money, in the wet the grip has never let me down and in the dry it is extremly good. Have used them on track a few times and still have alot of life left in them, price wise they are a bargain, most places sell them for more or less the same proce as most peoples fave the proxes T1-r which offer alot less consistant grip in my experience and in the wet they work well or just give up, no real inbetween! The Kumho's the op mentioned that are "too cheap" are very good tyres for the cash (about £35 a corner?) I used to have them on an old mondeo and they didn't do too well, but on my 106 they were great. dunno if theres a point with car weights that makes em crap, assuming a 306 is on the good side of that  |
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Posted 29th Jun 2010 at 00:27
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #36
£35 cheaper than Camskill  Order will be placed with them on payday, unless Camskill will price beat them. Can't argue at £140 delivered, the money saved just bought me some Alpine SXE-1725S's ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 29th Jun 2010 at 03:18
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #37
Nope, camskill won't beat them. Gutted for them ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 30th Jun 2010 at 03:30
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musclebeach
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,763 Status: Offline |
Post #38
I rate Rainsports too! Gash when brand new, but once bedded in they're grippy in the wet unsurprisingly and grippy in the dry too! Better than Yoko Parada's i've currently got on, wet = no grip!________________________________________ VW Golf GT TDI 115, 100k nooooooooooooooooooooo! |
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Posted 30th Jun 2010 at 04:33
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Bickerton
Newbie Location: Bedworth Registered: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 7 Status: Offline |
Post #39
cwspellowe wrote: Nope, camskill won't beat them. Gutted for them Have you tried a few of you local unbranded tyre places as i got mine from a place local for me pretty cheapish fitted, they are supplied from Continental tyres so mebbe worth a try |
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Posted 30th Jun 2010 at 13:03
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #40
Yeah tried a couple of places, one of them even refused point blank to accept they did them in that size.In his words.. "I have over 50 Uniroyals out back and i guarantee they don't make them in that sze"  Might take them back to him for fitting when they arrive  ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 30th Jun 2010 at 15:47
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fletch
Track Head  Location: The nearest Shell garage Registered: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 12,273 Status: Offline |
Post #41
I run Ze912s on the 106 and they're excellent in the dry and ive tried a lot of excellent tyres in the past. However they are shocking in the rain or even damp. I've never had a such a Jekyll and Hyde tyre.Admittedly im always chasing the very best performance from tyres so im highly critical. |
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Posted 30th Jun 2010 at 19:34
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro  Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #42
fletch wrote: I run Ze912s on the 106 and they're excellent in the dry and ive tried a lot of excellent tyres in the past. However they are shocking in the rain or even damp. I've never had a such a Jekyll and Hyde tyre. Admittedly im always chasing the very best performance from tyres so im highly critical. That's strange that Matt. I've got 912's on the front of mine and they seem pretty good in the wet. In the dry it's as you say. I am tempted to go for the PE2's next time tho. Assuming I get to put another set of tyres on it ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 1st Jul 2010 at 12:20
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fletch
Track Head Location: The nearest Shell garage Registered: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 12,273 Status: Offline |
Post #43
SteviePut wrote: fletch wrote: I run Ze912s on the 106 and they're excellent in the dry and ive tried a lot of excellent tyres in the past. However they are shocking in the rain or even damp. I've never had a such a Jekyll and Hyde tyre. Admittedly im always chasing the very best performance from tyres so im highly critical. That's strange that Matt. I've got 912's on the front of mine and they seem pretty good in the wet. In the wet it's as you say. I am tempted to go for the PE2's next time tho. Assuming I get to put another set of tyres on it These are on the 106 in 185/55/14 so have less grip than a wider tyre. Didn't really understand you saying theyre good in the wet, then like I say in the wet? |
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Posted 1st Jul 2010 at 03:57
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #44
a 106 is a very flighty beast, so I wouldn't be surprised if it feels like it has less grip than a 306, they have pretty stiff rear arb's if they're a sport model.also it might be that they take some time to wear in, and the tyre pressures may be out. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 1st Jul 2010 at 04:36
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fletch
Track Head Location: The nearest Shell garage Registered: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 12,273 Status: Offline |
Post #45
Theyre 4 months old so well worn in, tyre pressures fine, they're just pants in the wet, will understeer badly. Great in the dry, can be overwhelmed if you take liberties, obviously, lifting off mid corner, they chirp and let go very progessively. |
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Posted 1st Jul 2010 at 04:40
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #46
fletch wrote: SteviePut wrote: fletch wrote: I run Ze912s on the 106 and they're excellent in the dry and ive tried a lot of excellent tyres in the past. However they are shocking in the rain or even damp. I've never had a such a Jekyll and Hyde tyre. Admittedly im always chasing the very best performance from tyres so im highly critical. That's strange that Matt. I've got 912's on the front of mine and they seem pretty good in the wet. In the wet it's as you say. I am tempted to go for the PE2's next time tho. Assuming I get to put another set of tyres on it These are on the 106 in 185/55/14 so have less grip than a wider tyre. Didn't really understand you saying theyre good in the wet, then like I say in the wet? Edited my post so it makes sense!!  ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 1st Jul 2010 at 12:21
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #47
Dammit just a word of advice to anyone using ANTEC for tyres, don't pay by Paypal!I just used it because i ordered at work and didn't have my card to hand, apparently the paypal payment has to clear, followed by being verified by Worldpay. Means they aren't getting despatched until next week once the payment clears. Twice. Dammit. ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2010 at 16:24
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #48
Cheeky update for everyone, the shite weather we've had recently has been a good test of the new tyres, feel very progressive and to be honest I haven't found their limit yet. They've been pushed quite hard but not all the way until I find out how far that is but so far i'm very impressed.Bit of sidewall flex but nothing dramatic, and pretty low road noise, but they inspire so much confidence in the wet it's probably a bad thing  I'd definitely buy them again  ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 25th Jul 2010 at 05:27
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anth
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colchester Registered: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 3,651 Status: Offline |
Post #49
I also find 912's to be pretty good in the wet. But then my last tyres were parada's which were shocking in the wet. |
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Posted 25th Jul 2010 at 16:36
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jaymes306
Junior User Location: Salisbury Registered: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 94 Status: Offline |
Post #50
I also live on a budget, Normally i go for the t1r's which i have no problem with in wet weather what so ever, However this time i listened to a freind and got the falken 912's. Dont think there as good as the t1rs in wet or dry tbh. |
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Posted 25th Jul 2010 at 22:59
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