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 fletch
Track Head  Location: The nearest Shell garage Registered: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 12,273 Status: Offline |
Post #51
jaymes306 wrote: I also live on a budget, Normally i go for the t1r's which i have no problem with in wet weather what so ever, However this time i listened to a freind and got the falken 912's. Dont think there as good as the t1rs in wet or dry tbh. I tend to agree, although im using a lot narrower and smaller tyre so its not a direct comparison |
 Posted 28th Sep 2010 at 02:50
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #52
totally the opposite IMO, far more predictable both wet and dry, more grip and didn't overheat on track, similar pricing, no brainer to me.I chose to get some PE2's instead though  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th Sep 2010 at 02:52
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fletch
Track Head Location: The nearest Shell garage Registered: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 12,273 Status: Offline |
Post #53
I cant believe how the same tyre can be so different either the compounds vary or size makes a massive difference. I get chronic understeer in the wet. |
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Posted 28th Sep 2010 at 03:15
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #54
that's just the nature of a fwd car often enough though, maybe yore just driving too hard on greasy roads?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th Sep 2010 at 03:19
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fletch
Track Head Location: The nearest Shell garage Registered: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 12,273 Status: Offline |
Post #55
welshpug! wrote: that's just the nature of a fwd car often enough though, maybe yore just driving too hard on greasy roads? I'm definitely not one to drive fast in the wet so it's not that, i've been taken aback by the performance or rather lack of it when driving carefully. They just let go and you're understeering away. In a straight line, hard braking is quite good just seems to be when turning corners - even gentle ones! In the dry, fantastic! |
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Posted 28th Sep 2010 at 03:58
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #56
Construction in the carcass tends to vary between tyre sizes, usually with a tweak of the compound if needed too.However, some tyres are very sensitive to suspension setup too, Yokohama in particular seems to make tyres that can be night and day even on the same car with different setups. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 28th Sep 2010 at 04:20
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #57
what brand are the rainsports and PE2'sJust so i know what to look for next time i get tyres ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 1st Oct 2010 at 03:21
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #58
uniroyal and michelin________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 1st Oct 2010 at 03:35
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matt_gti
Senior User  Location: Leafy Surrey Registered: 08 Sep 2008 Posts: 667 Status: Offline |
Post #59
Had F1's on my 205, bloody brillinat in the dry but they don't make the 195/50/15 anymore. I think they start at 16" onwards. Got Parada spec 2's on the 6 atm and in the dry there good, the side walls a little soft but there ok and in the wet, well they are just rubbish!. Been looking at the Rainsports which on balance don't cost alot and get good reviews. ________________________________________ 306 GTI-6205 GTI-6 Project 205 1.6 GTI - RIP 205 1.9 TT - RIP E39 535i - Daily driver *Newest edition* E60 M5 5l v10 - The weekend car  |
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Posted 18th Nov 2010 at 05:27
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matty.19
Newbie  Location: Guisborough Registered: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 23 Status: Offline |
Post #60
i have RS2's and i was realy shocked by the grip you get in the wet!I'd love to buy some more but the fronts have only done about 4-5k miles and will need replacing within another 1k id say :| the sidewalls are really soft too, my car wobbles sideways a fair bit just due to the sidewall flexing had T1Rs on my old hdi and hated them im tempted to try vredstein sportrac 3's next.... need to do some research though as i need something that will last quite a while, im doing 400+ miles a week... lol |
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Posted 21st Nov 2010 at 23:52
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #61
PE2's for you then or P6000  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 21st Nov 2010 at 23:56
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oecken
Seasoned Pro  Location: Mt Cook, New Zealand Registered: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 4,751 Status: Offline |
Post #62
only go for the Falkens if you live somewhere it never rains...... i live on scotland  coming back from dropping the mrs off at work last night and pretty much every corner on cobbled roads (a few in Edinburgh) resulted in a 4 wheels sideways slide  ________________________________________  Ex-Black 6 - Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2010 at 19:00
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #63
falkens are fine in the rain.no tyre in the world works on cobbles ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2010 at 19:03
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oecken
Seasoned Pro Location: Mt Cook, New Zealand Registered: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 4,751 Status: Offline |
Post #64
not just the cobbles, but normal tarmac too  but geeze, the cobbles are dangerous! ________________________________________ Ex-Black 6 - Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2010 at 20:30
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro  Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #65
Mat i got a scare coming down Blair Street past Cab Voltaire when i lived in Edinburgh. Wet cobbles + Falken ZE512's + rush hour = major shit-your-pants moment approaching Cowgate ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2010 at 00:54
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #66
Cobbles are farking dodgy no matter what, the surface is shiny and the all the pockets hold the water so your halfway between aquaplaning and sliding all the time.Oh, and the suspension is vibrating like a mains-powered dildo to boot... ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2010 at 01:00
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oecken
Seasoned Pro Location: Mt Cook, New Zealand Registered: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 4,751 Status: Offline |
Post #67
phillipm wrote: Cobbles are farking dodgy no matter what, the surface is shiny and the all the pockets hold the water so your halfway between aquaplaning and sliding all the time. Oh, and the suspension is vibrating like a mains-powered dildo to boot... cant wait till the ice comes ! cobbles that have those little pockets of water frozen is just trouble, my new flat is on a cobble street, which happens to be a hill, there is no way anyone will be getting up or down. but i think the car will be gone by next weekend ________________________________________ Ex-Black 6 - Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you. |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2010 at 18:07
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #68
Oh noes!________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2010 at 20:15
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #69
oecken wrote: cobbles that have those little pockets of water frozen is just trouble, my new flat is on a cobble street, which happens to be a hill, there is no way anyone will be getting up or down. I've got a lovely set of narrow steel wheels here with skinny 165 tyres on to bite through snow/ice and wrapped in Mud/Snow tyres too  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2010 at 21:52
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oecken
Seasoned Pro Location: Mt Cook, New Zealand Registered: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 4,751 Status: Offline |
Post #70
i would love to Phil but the car will sadly be gone to a new owner on saturday (waiting for confirmation) and he lives in Kent so probably wont have the same problem ________________________________________ Ex-Black 6 - Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you. |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2010 at 22:11
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gaz likes shmeat
Senior User  Location: Reading Registered: 27 May 2009 Posts: 696 Status: Offline |
Post #71
I've just had some rainsport 2's fitted, seem awesome so far! nice and responsive |
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Posted 26th Nov 2010 at 19:10
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro  Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #72
oecken wrote: only go for the Falkens if you live somewhere it never rains...... i live on scotland coming back from dropping the mrs off at work last night and pretty much every corner on cobbled roads (a few in Edinburgh) resulted in a 4 wheels sideways slide Stop your bloody moaning You want to try Parada's in the wet for a truly life changing experience! ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 26th Nov 2010 at 20:58
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oecken
Seasoned Pro Location: Mt Cook, New Zealand Registered: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 4,751 Status: Offline |
Post #73
shut it you! the car is sold, being delivered to Leeds in the AM ________________________________________ Ex-Black 6 - Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you. |
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Posted 26th Nov 2010 at 21:03
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #74
Nice knowing you Mat, now FOYC  ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 27th Nov 2010 at 02:52
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richardjohn22
Regular Location: Chelmsford & Canterbury Registered: 19 Aug 2006 Posts: 184 Status: Offline |
Post #75
Is £92 quid fair for a PE2 tyre and tracking? It's exactly the same price from 4 garages near me (£67 for tyre, £25 for tracking). Tyres are 195/50 at mo. My F1s (which sadly are no longer produced), were only £48 each with fitting. |
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Posted 5th Dec 2010 at 00:15
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