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 welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #176
wiring ninja update......HALP!!!! Inspiration tape shortage!  forgot to pick up more  VSS connector to add and a ring terminal for the permanent lives, all done, fingers crossed the two 306 multiplugs match the wallye pinout. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
 Posted 21st Jan 2010 at 03:00
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pugzy
Seasoned Pro  Location: Forest of Dean Registered: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 5,543 Status: Offline |
Post #177
Must see this, my two fave Pugs combined; the GTi6/Rallye shell and the v6 engine   Let me know about my clutch when ya get chance bud  ________________________________________ Pugzy...aka MikeEx-Platinum silver 306 GTi6 owner...now an Ex-Scarlet Red 406 3ltr V6 Coupe owner too  Now driving a China Blue 106 1.5 Diesel..."The Money-Saving and Debt-Busting Machine" |
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Posted 21st Jan 2010 at 03:08
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #178
Will do Mike  Small update - lower engine mount has been modified and the driveshafts have been cut, pinned and welded. Just hope they balance up ok... No idea what the welsh wizard is up to tomorrow so I'm going to re-attach the inlet manifold and coilpacks, bolt the gearbox back on and mount it properly. Then will try the shafts for length after cleaning the buggers up. Also have to move the business this weekend and remove a few more 406 parts. Busy! ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 22nd Jan 2010 at 23:51
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sloppy
Senior User  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 677 Status: Offline |
Post #179
Not putting a v6 into a 306, but thinking of putting one into my mi16, just to clarify the mL5 box only available from the coupe (not bothered about 6 speed box)was gonna put a gti6 engine in it but they have a stupidly high antiroll bar which fouls on the exhaust manifold... same with hdi engine/turbo... Looks good so far well done guys. |
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Posted 23rd Jan 2010 at 01:24
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #180
No it came on saloons and estates too with slightly different ratios iirc. Has to be a V6 model though.Not sure how the V6 will help on the ARB front tbh - the flange sits a bit lower than the 6 engine on mine at the moment. Can't you try a different ARB from a different car? ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 23rd Jan 2010 at 01:29
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sloppy
Senior User Location: Yorkshire Registered: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 677 Status: Offline |
Post #181
ahh so the manual box came in the std 406 too. Obviously i want a manual box. Seen as the 405 and xantia share a very similar chassis i was going to try get a complete xantia v6 as a donor and work from there only problem being i would then have to source a manual box... as i bet nearly all the xantias are auto with them being old folks cars! |
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Posted 23rd Jan 2010 at 21:35
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #182
Welshpug says:Start with the 406 as you have loads less hydraulics to worry about - no PAS pump for example. Also the Xantias are blinking rare. You'll get more money for the parts off a coupe as well  ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 24th Jan 2010 at 01:38
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #183
Update:Clutch release arm is very nearly sorted (Another huge thanks to Ray at the Bug Barn for his brilliant welding). Inlet manifold and coilpacks back on, diff seals done, driveshafts back together, immobiliser changed over and i've chopped out a fair bit of the cruise control. Be nice to have possibly the only 306 with cruise control  ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 24th Jan 2010 at 01:44
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #184
Another update:Clutch arm is being a proper pain. Was beautifully lined up and working. Put the box back on the engine and engaged the clutch bearing only to find the arm clouted the thermostat housing. Then had a bit of mare removing the bearing from the clutch spring plate and didn't manage to sort the arm. Going to get it cut and welded to work better tomorrow. Otherwise quite a few other small jobs completed. Shouldn't be long to completion - if the release arm had worked then it would have been running today. Good to finally put a face to the name today Carl - thanks for dropping in. Although a bit loud that V6 sounds lush, I can't wait now! ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 24th Jan 2010 at 23:32
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #185
By the way i've recently seen a dyno graph of a coupe D8 V6. Interestingly it makes the same torque as the GTi6 engine does at its peak, but at about 1500rpm ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 24th Jan 2010 at 23:34
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #186
Great news mate |
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Posted 24th Jan 2010 at 23:47
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #187
adam b wrote: Be nice to have possibly the only 306 with cruise control Its a Rallye, it doesnt need cruise control   ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 25th Jan 2010 at 00:56
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steve954
Seasoned Pro  Location: norwich Registered: 16 Nov 2008 Posts: 2,213 Status: Offline |
Post #188
rallyestyle wrote: my old gti had cruise control, but i sorted that with a new throttle cable.adam b wrote: Be nice to have possibly the only 306 with cruise control Its a Rallye, it doesnt need cruise control ________________________________________ stevie09 308 gt140 cc 03 octavia vrs IF IT AIN'T BROKE, IT AIN'T A GTI6 |
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Posted 25th Jan 2010 at 01:05
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sloppy
Senior User Location: Yorkshire Registered: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 677 Status: Offline |
Post #189
adam b wrote: Update: Clutch release arm is very nearly sorted (Another huge thanks to Ray at the Bug Barn for his brilliant welding). Inlet manifold and coilpacks back on, diff seals done, driveshafts back together, immobiliser changed over and i've chopped out a fair bit of the cruise control. Be nice to have possibly the only 306 with cruise control was it not possible to go the old trick of unlocking the ecu on removal from the 406 then cutting wires on the loom to stop it re-locking or have you literally swapped it all over so the imob works as it should. |
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Posted 25th Jan 2010 at 01:14
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #190
Might have cruise control at some point, but at the moment its by far the least important thing! ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 25th Jan 2010 at 01:16
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #191
sloppy wrote: adam b wrote: Update: Clutch release arm is very nearly sorted (Another huge thanks to Ray at the Bug Barn for his brilliant welding). Inlet manifold and coilpacks back on, diff seals done, driveshafts back together, immobiliser changed over and i've chopped out a fair bit of the cruise control. Be nice to have possibly the only 306 with cruise control was it not possible to go the old trick of unlocking the ecu on removal from the 406 then cutting wires on the loom to stop it re-locking or have you literally swapped it all over so the imob works as it should. Well we didn't cut the wires as we needed them. You can just take the loom off the ecu with the battery connected. Anyway on the 406 you have to transfer the immobiliser across (and keep a key chip in the car)unless you get it unlocked by Ade off the 205 drivers or probably Rich_w on here. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 25th Jan 2010 at 01:20
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #192
rallyestyle wrote: adam b wrote: Be nice to have possibly the only 306 with cruise control Its a Rallye, it doesnt need cruise control This is why i f*cked up the 406 air con rad |
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Posted 25th Jan 2010 at 01:22
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #193
Update:Engine is officially in, wiring is connected, fuel lines connected, clutch arm sorted. Steering rack now has a normal 306 ram so I should be able to turn right. Got to sort the water pipes, subframe on etc etc... ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 25th Jan 2010 at 20:57
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro  Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #194
looks like work is sort of on hold till this is finished.??Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 25th Jan 2010 at 20:59
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #195
mechanical_repairs wrote: looks like work is sort of on hold till this is finished.??Carl Not entirely as i'm still moving units and have spent a long time researching/buying a new printer. Has kind of though I guess - then again it has to be able to move by the end of the week! ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 25th Jan 2010 at 23:24
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #196
should be able to move it at the very least in a day or so, possibly under its own power though very loudly.Was tempted to try and fire it up earlier as soon as it was in and plugged up, but the subframe wasn't on so no bottom mounting and no cat connected let alone centre and rear box, might have been rather loud  Found a solution to the 406 Rad not having a thermoswitch insert that'll work on the wallye fans, just need to confirm whether the threads are M20 or M22 x 1.5. this wouldn't be an issue on a gti6 as there is a brown temp sensor that you can use and leave the control of them down to the bitron fan control unit. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 26th Jan 2010 at 00:00
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shimmy
Senior User  Location: Shrewsbury Registered: 17 Oct 2009 Posts: 571 Status: Offline |
Post #197
What line of work you in Adam? Any pics to post?________________________________________ Team V6 |
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Posted 26th Jan 2010 at 00:00
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #198
sticky back plastic applier  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 26th Jan 2010 at 00:05
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #199
welshpug! wrote: sticky back plastic applier Little more involved than that - design, print and stick things from vehicles to shop merchandise graphics. Just bought a new Roland Soljet Pro 3 XC540 ex-demo for a great price so well chuffed - no more overnighters! I've been fairly out of my depth with a few things done on the car recently - i'm fine doing pretty much anything bolting together etc, but fabrication is not my forte. I can do wiring as well, but that loom is a fair step up from what i've done in the past. Its kind of getting over the fear of screwing something up whilst trying to figure out what mei is trying to do at the same time. Been a slightly strange experience all told! Cool on the fans (see what I did there...)!! How can I measure the thread? ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 26th Jan 2010 at 00:16
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shimmy
Senior User Location: Shrewsbury Registered: 17 Oct 2009 Posts: 571 Status: Offline |
Post #200
Ah right im a qualified Litho printer. Not quite the same but along the same lines.Its always handy to have someone that knows what they are doing. lol ________________________________________ Team V6 |
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Posted 26th Jan 2010 at 00:22
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