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 thugpuggin
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 26,784 Status: Offline |
Post #151
Is the original seatbelt we tied on still holding that engine?  I was in the scouts but don't recall knot badges.Coming along nicely, that wiring looks mega. If you need a sub frame to practice on/you mess yours up. I have one spare doing nowt. ________________________________________ Black X Reg PIII.VGTi 6 A4212 pt 1 A4212 pt 2 Searching the streets of Bristol for 1.36p/day.Joint Kent Leader |
 Posted 18th Jan 2010 at 03:33
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #152
thugpuggin wrote: If you need a sub frame to practice on/you mess yours up. I have one spare doing nowt. Has been in the back of my mind  Yes they are holding fine at the moment  ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 18th Jan 2010 at 03:47
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #153
Update:Subframe is now welded up (big thanks to Ray at the Bug Barn for burning his fingers) and so is the crack in the exhaust manifold. Driveshafts have been measured up and are at the local metal fabricators being chopped and sleeved. Using the 406 inners and 306 outers so I have ABS. Also getting a few ally spacers made up for the top mount and subframe. Mei has finally been released back into the wild with the loom and his new gas soldering iron. I'm going to try to find some time to get the subframe cleaned up and painted and I also need to respray the inner wings. Very little rust in this car which is cool, just has a few scratches now. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 19th Jan 2010 at 01:03
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pugmarshall
Regular  Location: Herefordshire Registered: 02 Feb 2009 Posts: 187 Status: Offline |
Post #154
Very nice project, what gearbox are you using? |
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Posted 19th Jan 2010 at 01:22
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goliath
Newbie Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 19 May 2009 Posts: 6 Status: Offline |
Post #155
Good to see you at the weekend, shame I couldn't be of more help  Can't wait to have a race once it's done  Edit: Pugmarshall: he is using an ML5T 5speed manual box from a v6 coupe. The v6 boxes are the only ones that fit that engine, the bell housing and bolt pattern is different to all other pug boxes. |
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Posted 19th Jan 2010 at 01:27
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #156
goliath wrote: Good to see you at the weekend, shame I couldn't be of more help Can't wait to have a race once it's done Yeah its a ML5 gearbox. Uses cable shift but also a hydraulic clutch which is being converted to cable as well. Thanks for popping over - need to get my grinder back though! Not much point having a race is there? Same engine and box, but you're carrying at least 200kgs less. Bet mine goes round corners better though  ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 19th Jan 2010 at 01:38
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #157
What G said, its f-ing huge and weighs a ton (10 more than the gti6 box, 15 ish more than a 5 speed BE box) Weighs less than the 4HP20 auto box though  Cheers for the feedign Adam, say thanks to Lorna, was very nice ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Jan 2010 at 01:50
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #158
Not a problem at all mate  ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 19th Jan 2010 at 02:54
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #159
Update:Done absolutely nothing on it today Edit - Actually after posting that I cleaned up the rusty bits on the subframe and smoothrited it. Its a bit shiny now, but will get covered in shite soon enough ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 19th Jan 2010 at 23:58
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro  Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #160
Would i be welcome to pop over and see all this on sunday? Passing by you see, nice to pop in and say hello.Could do with feeding too Cheers, Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 00:02
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #161
PM sent carl - more than welcome mate Bringing the V6...? ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 02:01
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #162
So will this be running by sat?  |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 03:13
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #163
18 wires to go, most of which are permanent lives one or two switched ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 03:59
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #164
roland rat wrote: So will this be running by sat? Not sure i'm going to be about on saturday now though - have to get the paperwork sorted on my new printer. Fairly unlikely it will be running i'd have thought - still have the clutch to sort, water pipes, a temporary fan solution, fitting the rad in and a few other bits and bobs. Guess it might be in another 10 days or so. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 13:56
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #165
Ahh fiddlesticks!How about using some slimline fans like spal etc? |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 16:18
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Carl Chambers
Seasoned Pro  Location: suffolk/norfolk Registered: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 2,897 Status: Offline |
Post #166
goliath wrote: he is using an ML5T 5speed manual box from a v6 coupe. The v6 boxes are the only ones that fit that engine, the bell housing and bolt pattern is different to all other pug boxes. Clio V6 6 speed will fit on as its the same engine not easy to find one though. pretty sure the Lagunas had a 6 speed manual didnt they? are were they all crap autos like the 407s are?________________________________________ Carl Chambersemail; pugnacious.peugeot@yahoo.co.uk . C.M.CHAMBERS CARS Peugeot Specialist Tel; 01379 586101 after 6.30 or 07889 082466 anytime. pugsport-racing.co.uk |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 14:11
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Carl Chambers
Seasoned Pro Location: suffolk/norfolk Registered: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 2,897 Status: Offline |
Post #167
adam b wrote: roland rat wrote: So will this be running by sat? Not sure i'm going to be about on saturday now though - have to get the paperwork sorted on my new printer. Fairly unlikely it will be running i'd have thought - still have the clutch to sort, water pipes, a temporary fan solution, fitting the rad in and a few other bits and bobs. Guess it might be in another 10 days or so. Another 10 days, welshpug said it was easy to do in 2 days! whats the hold up, its been over 2 weeks now its all the fiddly things that take the time! connecting all the hoses etc. its getting there though and looking good! ________________________________________ Carl Chambersemail; pugnacious.peugeot@yahoo.co.uk . C.M.CHAMBERS CARS Peugeot Specialist Tel; 01379 586101 after 6.30 or 07889 082466 anytime. pugsport-racing.co.uk |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 14:15
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #168
did I? erm.... well I could have made it run.....but it wouldn't have been drivable just sat there going bwarp!the main area that has held us back is that I live about 70 miles away, don't have my own car working, bloody snow, Adam bought an auto donor.... and erm, trying to do it without haemorrhaging cash in reality I think we've only worked on it for 4-5 days and at a fairly relaxed pace too. the ML5T is the only usable box than can be utilised, no doubt a 6 speed unit from the 407 or C6 could be sourced (or put together as a hybrid of ES9 bellhousing and ML6 casing) but it'd weigh even more and limit steering lock, potentially might not fit under the chassis leg. seeing as we don't want to touch the chassis its not a route I'd take, in a 306 or anything smaller anyway, as it is this Rallye looks like it will be able to turn right for once  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 16:12
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Carl Chambers
Seasoned Pro Location: suffolk/norfolk Registered: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 2,897 Status: Offline |
Post #169
welshpug! wrote: gkz 206 wrote: adam b wrote: f*ck it lets sling the beast in the rallye and be done. Do-able in 2 days....? 2 days!!! Id like to see it done that quick obviously didn't hear how long it took Goliath to get his running then did you Well you sort of did The easy part is getting it to run its all the other bits! Im only messing with you as always ________________________________________ Carl Chambersemail; pugnacious.peugeot@yahoo.co.uk . C.M.CHAMBERS CARS Peugeot Specialist Tel; 01379 586101 after 6.30 or 07889 082466 anytime. pugsport-racing.co.uk |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 16:23
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #170
Yay turning right FTW!I've had to source quite a lot of stuff - to be fair it could have been chucked in as it was, but cambelt, resealing the cam carriers etc etc takes time. Will be about most of saturday now Ash, so just give me a ring first Still have to figure out the rad fan switch as I'm loathed to pay ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 23:28
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Carl Chambers
Seasoned Pro Location: suffolk/norfolk Registered: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 2,897 Status: Offline |
Post #171
adam b wrote: Yay turning right FTW!
I've had to source quite a lot of stuff - to be fair it could have been chucked in as it was, but cambelt, resealing the cam carriers etc etc takes time. Will be about most of saturday now Ash, so just give me a ring first Still have to figure out the rad fan switch as I'm loathed to pay ________________________________________ Carl Chambersemail; pugnacious.peugeot@yahoo.co.uk . C.M.CHAMBERS CARS Peugeot Specialist Tel; 01379 586101 after 6.30 or 07889 082466 anytime. pugsport-racing.co.uk |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 23:34
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #172
Not a hole in the 406 rad to put it in - it had aircon so used the Bitron switch thingy________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 23:36
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Carl Chambers
Seasoned Pro Location: suffolk/norfolk Registered: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 2,897 Status: Offline |
Post #173
adam b wrote: Not a hole in the 406 rad to put it in - it had aircon so used the Bitron switch thingy cant use the 306 rad then and lots of pipes? ________________________________________ Carl Chambersemail; pugnacious.peugeot@yahoo.co.uk . C.M.CHAMBERS CARS Peugeot Specialist Tel; 01379 586101 after 6.30 or 07889 082466 anytime. pugsport-racing.co.uk |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 23:41
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #174
Not now - i've sold it Its very different and would cause issues with the alternator and PAS as they're close. Will probably fit a dash switch for the time being until I can afford the revotec switch. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 23:46
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #175
I remembered earlier one reason why the VR6 rad is used apart from them being a bit narrower and fit easier in a 309/205, they have the M20 hole to take a thermoswitch.if I could machine stuff I'd make up a piece of aluminium tube with an M20 boss in it to go in the top hose, bit like the revotec one but to accept the standard switch. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 23:51
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