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rich306

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Hey all, just wanting to know whether the rear torsion bars on the XSI and GTI-6 are the same and if so are they different to a DTurbo torsion bar in terms of being 'stiffer'?

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Posted 31st Oct 2009 at 04:32
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Yes the GTI ones are "stiffer" than D-bathtubs Thumbs up

And theres a suspension section of the forum,believe it or not its for all suspension related questions like yours! Shock
Posted 31st Oct 2009 at 04:37
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simonjames

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And the xsara vts has stiffer 1s

I.E the 21mm bars Ash is selling

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Posted 31st Oct 2009 at 04:51
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rich306

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roland rat wrote:
Yes the GTI ones are "stiffer" than D-bathtubs Thumbs up

And theres a suspension section of the forum,believe it or not its for all suspension related questions like yours! Shock

lol, sorry about the wrong section was just in a rush at the time..
at least that answers one of my questions, but i also need to know whether the XSi and GTI ones are the same

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
- Top Tip!!!
Posted 31st Oct 2009 at 04:55
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rich306 wrote:
roland rat wrote:
Yes the GTI ones are "stiffer" than D-bathtubs Thumbs up

And theres a suspension section of the forum,believe it or not its for all suspension related questions like yours! Shock

lol, sorry about the wrong section was just in a rush at the time..
at least that answers one of my questions, but i also need to know whether the XSi and GTI ones are the same


believe so young man Smile
Posted 31st Oct 2009 at 05:02
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mankee

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I took apart three beams last week to build one good one. I measured the GTI-6 torsion bars to be 20mm and the XSi to have 19mm torsion bars. I was told it was an XSi beam anyway! It had discs on the back at least.
Posted 1st Nov 2009 at 00:52
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rich306

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so what your saying there is that the Xsi torsion bars are lower than a gti one but by only a mm? lol

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
- Top Tip!!!
Posted 1st Nov 2009 at 02:29
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yes the torsion bars come in 1mm difference mate Smile
Posted 1st Nov 2009 at 02:35
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rich306

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lol, thanks guys i sound so dumb...
another question i forgot to ask, i presume the rear anti roll bars are the same all round but how about the front?

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
- Top Tip!!!
Posted 1st Nov 2009 at 02:36
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gti one is thicker on the front iirc Smile
Posted 1st Nov 2009 at 02:38
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rich306

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Anyone tried fitting these to a DTub?

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
- Top Tip!!!
Posted 1st Nov 2009 at 03:46
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mankee

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More bar geekiness from me again. I measured the GTi-6 rear ARB to be 24mm and the supposedly XSi beam to be 20mm.

I've fitted the beam I built up to my 5-door XTdt, so it's got discs on the back now plus 20mm torsion bars and 24mm ARB, coupled with Xsara VTS front springs and dampers. Drives loads better than before, but that might be because it had dodgy suspension on it when I got it.

If you need a pair of 20mm torsion bars and a 24mm rear ARB from a GTi-6 then I have a spare set now.
Posted 2nd Nov 2009 at 01:59
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i also have a spare set woop!!

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Posted 2nd Nov 2009 at 02:34
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rich306

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My mate might be interested depending on price and pics

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
- Top Tip!!!
Posted 2nd Nov 2009 at 14:45
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simonjames wrote:
And the xsara vts has stiffer 1s


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Posted 2nd Nov 2009 at 21:37
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mankee wrote:
I took apart three beams last week to build one good one. I measured the GTI-6 torsion bars to be 20mm and the XSi to have 19mm torsion bars. I was told it was an XSi beam anyway! It had discs on the back at least.


hmm an XS even has 20mm bars (well mine does..)

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Posted 2nd Nov 2009 at 22:10
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Depends how old it is.

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