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230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #51
you going to run a hydraulic clutch with a slave cyclinder? Where did you get that box from?________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
Posted 6th Apr 2010 at 23:38
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #52
yep hydraulic clutch as the ml5t box uses one as standard so i just need to get a pipe made up that goes from standard union to the poxy standard fitting. the box is from compbrake and i know how w*nk comp brake are surposed to be, but its not to bad tbh. ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 7th Apr 2010 at 02:42
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306andy
Senior User Location: Derby Registered: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #53
Good to see you cracking on with this If you need a hand with owt, i'm in Derby too so fire over a PM and i'll see what i can do________________________________________ TEAM 205 GTi-5TEAM Phase 1 GTi-6 xbox Live tag: SilverGTi6 |
Posted 10th Apr 2010 at 03:11
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #54
bobdylan_55 wrote: i seriously cant see them pipes coming off under only 15psi boost. maybe if i up the boost, but they are pretty smug fit and the clamps seem damn hardcore. They won't stay on, trust me, first dyno run, they will blow off, and you will have wasted your time and cash booking the session. A local race team or anyone that makes ally radiators etc should have the swaging machine and they would only charge beer money to put the swages in as it takes no time at all. Just a thought, but bear in mind that when the hoses warm up they soften, oily air will work its way under the rubber and act as a luricant, and they will work loose as the engine moves. Something to think about thats all. These boys are local, if they don't have the tool I bet they could put you in cotact with someone nearby that does. Not a clicky: http://www.derbyperformancehose.co.uk/contact-dph-silicone-hose.html ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 10th Apr 2010 at 15:31
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #55
bobdylan_55 wrote: yep hydraulic clutch as the ml5t box uses one as standard so i just need to get a pipe made up that goes from standard union to the poxy standard fitting. the box is from compbrake and i know how w*nk comp brake are surposed to be, but its not to bad tbh. Be good to see how it goes, I was thinking of using their pedal box too. Did you go for their budget range of master cylinders? Only I've heard some horror stories about those. I was going to use a combination of their box, but with Girling or AP master cylinders. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 10th Apr 2010 at 15:33
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #56
the master cylinders they sent out with the boxes are girling (so it says) im sure ill have fun with them :OCost of dyno run is £0 as its at uni and free. Ill have a look into that swagging. x ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 10th Apr 2010 at 16:29
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #57
I have a comp brake box on mine, it was a bit of a fiddle to gt everything to fit right, but not to bad quality to be fair |
Posted 10th Apr 2010 at 23:20
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #58
Dyno at uni? Is that the engine dyno? If so I wouldn't hold your breath.________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
Posted 11th Apr 2010 at 04:36
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #59
no the rolling road, ive persuaded sean to let me use it if i come in when theres nobody using the rooms. 7PM FTMFW________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 23rd Apr 2010 at 03:12
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #60
p.s lolsmall update turned the inside of the adapter plate out with a boring tool as it wasnt big enough for the metal hose outlet that peugeot supplied me with. Then today ive been out and made a plate and fitted the resevoirs for the front, rear brakes, and clutch. ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 23rd Apr 2010 at 03:13
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #61
bobdylan_55 wrote: no the rolling road, ive persuaded sean to let me use it if i come in when theres nobody using the rooms. 7PM FTMFW We have a Rolling Road? God I am ill informed. I knew we had a [non working] engine dyno but not a rolling road. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
Posted 23rd Apr 2010 at 03:32
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #62
are you on drugs? lol there is a big silver panel over the floor in the main workshop hehe ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 23rd Apr 2010 at 03:35
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #63
bobdylan_55 wrote: are you on drugs? lol there is a big silver panel over the floor in the main workshop hehe I've only ever been in the workshop a couple of times. That is mental, eventually an engine dyno and a chassis dyno too. Do you drive a blue XSI? ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
Posted 23rd Apr 2010 at 03:42
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #64
we have an engine dyno, apparently it works though? was using the head benchflow tester today aswell, seems to work nicely.And yeah, just picked it up a few days back, dark blue 306 xsi with standard xsi alloy. ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 23rd Apr 2010 at 03:45
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #65
bobdylan_55 wrote: we have an engine dyno, apparently it works though? was using the head benchflow tester today aswell, seems to work nicely. And yeah, just picked it up a few days back, dark blue 306 xsi with standard xsi alloy. I saw you in the shell garage a bit ago I was in the black fiesta next to you. Whenever I ask Steve about the engine dyno the deadline for it being ready seems to slip. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
Posted 23rd Apr 2010 at 03:47
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #66
i swear the person next to me was a OAP? LOL but yeah that was me in the purple sainsburys uniform ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 23rd Apr 2010 at 03:59
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #67
got the engine back in today, however the 406 gearbox uses a different design of mount and so was 10mm short of the hole :S its also higher mounted so the gearbox sits low. Ive modified as much as i can without weakening the mount, but still at an angle. Does this look ok? all the mounts are in, so its just the driveshafts im worried about really. cheers also heat wrapped the manifold in blue ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 2nd May 2010 at 01:00
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #68
i wouldnt like to leave it like that tbh. looks a bit worrying and isnt going to do the driveshafts much good. cant you get a bracket/mount knocked up atall?________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
Posted 2nd May 2010 at 01:42
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #69
It isnt going anywhere so to speak, im just worried about the driveshafts as you say and maybe oil starvation around corners. I might make one out of some 4mm steel plate and then just space it to get the right height, do you think itll be ok to run on a RR like it though just until its mapped and got a power output for my uni project. ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 2nd May 2010 at 02:04
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peder_306
Regular Location: Gothenburg Registered: 23 May 2009 Posts: 131 Status: Offline |
Post #70
Hello sir.I'm going to turbocharge the dimma and i was wondering about your setup. You're using the s16 pistons and crank in the xu10j2te engine block? With the decompressionplate, what are the compression you think? Regards ________________________________________ Peugeot 306 Dimma CoupƩ. |
Posted 10th May 2010 at 22:02
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #71
3mm decomp plate gives me 8.4:1 and yes s16 pistons in the j2te block________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 10th May 2010 at 22:04
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peder_306
Regular Location: Gothenburg Registered: 23 May 2009 Posts: 131 Status: Offline |
Post #72
bobdylan_55 wrote: 3mm decomp plate gives me 8.4:1 and yes s16 pistons in the j2te block Can I ask why the j2te block? What would the comp be on a standard s16 engine? sorry mate, it's just so interesting ________________________________________ Peugeot 306 Dimma CoupƩ. |
Posted 11th May 2010 at 01:47
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #73
the compression would be exactly the same as its a common crank. Im using the block as its already from a turbo engine so has turbo feed and return ports, and hopefully should be a bit more sturdy. ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 11th May 2010 at 17:46
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #74
another update.another gearbox mount has been fabricated so the engine sits straight now. the intercooler and rad have been refitted and mounted properly the wastegate is refitted and now fits under the bonnet and also has a small screamer pipe on the blow off valve is also fitted the plumbing is done for the wastegate and blow off so they open when they should, and the extra slim fan is fitted 50mm finally spent the night with my bro tacking this downpipe up cheers ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 13th May 2010 at 04:26
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jjrossi636
Senior User Location: chester Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 568 Status: Offline |
Post #75
Is that you in the Sainsburys outfit? ha, its looking good, will be a right beast when its all done. |
Posted 13th May 2010 at 12:52
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