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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #26
yeah it fit nicely worried about the wastegate hitting the silicon joiner on turbo though, will get too hot i think and melt the silicon. ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 8th Oct 2009 at 20:04
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binkagti
Seasoned Pro Location: canterbury Registered: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,411 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Just a word of warning mate, those hoses will pop off straight away, even using mikalor clamps, also will be very laggy because of the lengh of the pipes and how many bends there are. Just my opinion but have done this all ready on my car. Mine looks like this:________________________________________ TEAM Supercharged Rallye |
Posted 9th Oct 2009 at 03:08
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #28
the clamps im using are 20x stronger than jubilee crap, they will be ok otherwise they wouldnt be used by everybody for turbo conversions. as for the lag, im expecting it to be laggy anyway due to the size of the turbo, but ill be sorting that out in due time. ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 9th Oct 2009 at 03:11
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binkagti
Seasoned Pro Location: canterbury Registered: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,411 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Cool beans mate________________________________________ TEAM Supercharged Rallye |
Posted 9th Oct 2009 at 03:18
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #30
stainless steel for exhaust im fabricating ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 15th Oct 2009 at 18:31
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306andy
Senior User Location: Derby Registered: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #31
Excellent work so far chap. Keep it up.One question though: Aren't the branches of the exhaust manifold supposed to be of equal length? As it seems that #2 & #3 are considerably shorter than that of #1 and of #4. Am i completely wrong here? ________________________________________ TEAM 205 GTi-5TEAM Phase 1 GTi-6 xbox Live tag: SilverGTi6 |
Posted 16th Oct 2009 at 01:05
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #32
may sound like a scooby then....________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
Posted 15th Oct 2009 at 19:22
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #33
it depends. if you get them equal then it gives smoother faster spool under load, but if theyre different lengths then you get random pulses down the pipes, so the turbo keeps spooling a little when you let off, so when you put foot back down its already half spooling. might be a complete eric fail, but if it is i can write about that in my assignment and then fix it for next years project scooby maybe, eviler hopefully need a backbox to weld on which has a 3" bore cant find one anywhere ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 15th Oct 2009 at 20:23
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #34
rallyeash wrote: may sound like a scooby then.... Huh? Surely the scooby bwarp sound is due to the flat four config? ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<< 2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
Posted 15th Oct 2009 at 20:45
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #35
These do a few 3" back boxes.________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
Posted 15th Oct 2009 at 21:19
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #36
perfect ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 15th Oct 2009 at 21:25
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ken
Senior User Location: wokingham Registered: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 905 Status: Offline |
Post #37
looking good mate! nice work________________________________________ Team Black Rallyexbox live - Xx 7 kenny 7 xX |
Posted 16th Oct 2009 at 19:28
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #38
It would be a good idea to get a bead swaged into the ends of all your tubes to help the hoses stay on under pressure. Plain tube ends will be unlikely to hold your hoses in place for long. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 16th Oct 2009 at 20:28
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #39
daveyboy wrote: Can he not just pop it to a welder and get them to run a raised weld round it and jubilee clip after that? may be cheaper than suaging. It would be a good idea to get a bead swaged into the ends of all your tubes to help the hoses stay on under pressure. Plain tube ends will be unlikely to hold your hoses in place for long. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
Posted 16th Oct 2009 at 23:40
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #40
cjm_harris wrote: rallyeash wrote: may sound like a scooby then.... Huh? Surely the scooby bwarp sound is due to the flat four config? thats what alot people believe, the reason for there sound is due to the unequal length exhaust manifold, fit an aftermarket equal one and sound completely different ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
Posted 17th Oct 2009 at 01:11
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #41
what he said, boxters have same flat four design and doesnt sound the same as a scoob. |
Posted 11th Apr 2010 at 20:53
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #42
i seriously cant see them pipes coming off under only 15psi boost. maybe if i up the boost, but they are pretty smug fit and the clamps seem damn hardcore. ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 27th Oct 2009 at 03:14
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #43
exhaust piping cut and welded, and new back box clamped on. Needs hangers welding on still, and also a tip connecting to it to make up the length. Also going to get started on downpipe at weekend. ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 10th Nov 2009 at 19:02
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alastairmoore
Junior User Location: Carlow Registered: 14 May 2008 Posts: 73 Status: Offline |
Post #44
pugheaven wrote: what he said, boxters have same flat four and doesnt sound the same as a scoob. Boxsters are flat 6! ________________________________________ 00 306 GTi 6 48,000 miles92 205 GTi 1.9 88,000 Miles 91 205 GTi 1.6 28,000 Miles 94 405 Le Mans 75,000 Miles 95 306 Roland Garros Cabrio |
Posted 10th Nov 2009 at 19:08
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #45
pugheaven wrote: what he said, boxters have same flat four and doesnt sound the same as a scoob. lol, Boxsters are flat 6. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 10th Nov 2009 at 19:12
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dommo
Regular Location: Stoke Registered: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 320 Status: Offline |
Post #46
rallyeash wrote: cjm_harris wrote: rallyeash wrote: may sound like a scooby then.... Huh? Surely the scooby bwarp sound is due to the flat four config? thats what alot people believe, the reason for there sound is due to the unequal length exhaust manifold, fit an aftermarket equal one and sound completely different Sounds completely different, ie, crap That's why most modern Group N/WRC impreza's sound just like any other rally car, and the original mcrae style WRC impreza's sound awesome (in my opinion anyway) ________________________________________ '99 306 Meridian TD with Bosch fuel pump - Cheap veg oil motoring'99 Xantia Activa turbo - not cheap veg oil motoring Goes around corners well though |
Posted 10th Nov 2009 at 19:32
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harvey01
Newbie Location: newhaven Registered: 29 Aug 2009 Posts: 19 Status: Offline |
Post #47
its the headers that make them sound like that ive had two subarus a 2005 sti that i spent a bit of cash on and put equal length headers on and then it sounds like any other turboed 2.0L . and a track wrx ra and i did the same to but striped it in a big way and it weighted 1100kg with half a tank of fuel.________________________________________ harvey01 |
Posted 10th Nov 2009 at 22:37
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #48
long time no update, but ive started cracking on again and this time hopefully will be the last stint until its fully done.engine out again Turbo oil feed didnt fit with standard fittings i got in the oil feed kit, so had my dad make me an adapter up at work. Titanium shaft lol also brought a clutch and cable gear selector to suit the ml5t gearbox i have, unfortunately i got send the wrong size clutch release bearing, so if anybody has one that fits xu10j2te gearboxes gimme a shout cheers ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 12th Mar 2010 at 03:40
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #49
more updateynessflywheel skimmed up like new by father new pedal box then i stripped out the car to get to the pedals etc, and found this after a good clean doesnt look too bad, mostly surface rust, so get it cleaned up and sprayed jobs gooden engine is also basically finished, new ml5t gearbox bolted on with clutch etc and also purchased a thermostat adapter for the standard top hose and rad. set up of the pedals for correct height positioning etc resevoirs added for trail fitment ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 3rd Apr 2010 at 03:36
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #50
pedal box has been fitted took a fair bit of work and welding which my bro helped with. basically welded in a rail and a plate and sat the box on the plate which allowed it to sit a few inch further back meaning seat position can stay relatively normal pics ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 21:23
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