Post #176
Whats up with your clocks?
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[Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout]
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 cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro  Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Whats up with your clocks? 1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
 Posted 28th Sep 2010 at 13:45
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pdd144c
Senior User  Location: Southampton Registered: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 550 Status: Offline |
Post #177
Fuse board supplies everything in the car, switches are for ignition, fuel pump, rain light, headed screen and fan. Dampers are 205 Group N one converted to fit, top mounts are 205 Compbrake items, but only give 2.5ish negative camber so I need to either get some new hubs or wishbones at somepoint!Clocks reset everytime you turn the kill switch on, and if you cut again before they go to zero they freeze like that! Got the beam fitted today, Miles got the height spot on, it's got a good ammount of toe and camber, and next to no droop with the 25mm torsion bars. Carbon door cards and quick shift are now also fitted, just need to sort a leaky brake fitting tomorrow and it's pretty much ready for it's first outing at Brands in 3 weeks. ________________________________________ FOR SALE205 Turbo Technics complete and 306 Rallye Race Build breaking. |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 01:47
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #178
do you need more than 2.5 due to the tyres you want to run?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 01:53
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #179
Phew, I hate 25mm bars they are a right pain in the ****Be good to know the camber and toe and the differance's in both sides ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 03:55
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soton_s16
Senior User  Location: Southampton Registered: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 703 Status: Offline |
Post #180
Sounds like it coming along nicely  What is the spec of the beam to get negative camber? ________________________________________ For all your Peugeot needs PugRacing.comGti S16 199bhp 164 ft lbs torques! |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 20:30
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pdd144c
Senior User Location: Southampton Registered: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 550 Status: Offline |
Post #181
All the FWD cars I've been involved with running or driven have always run best on R888s with around 4 degrees negative on the front, they work with less, but just not as good on turn in. Think I may start a seperate thread on this as I may well have to make something to suit, thinking along the lines of new extended ball joints, and converted to a sperical bearing to allow a spacer to be used to get the geometry correct once the car is lowered a lot. Just like my old Seat Cupra basically!Camber is bang on 3 both sides Miles, toe was equal but can't remember how much now! Camber and toe is achieved by machining the trailing arms to suit, Martin from on here did the work for me. Got the final few bits sorted today, just engine and gearbox oil to change, new MOT, check the mapping, some rollcage padding to fit and the remaining stickers and I'm good to go!  ________________________________________ FOR SALE205 Turbo Technics complete and 306 Rallye Race Build breaking. |
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Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 00:37
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shakey
Regular Location: Buckley Registered: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 492 Status: Offline |
Post #182
Lovely car, great thread - Wonna sell it ?? |
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Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 02:58
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #183
Speak to martin about getting more camber in the front hubs, I remember him sorting something with the hub carriers with an oversized hub-stut clamp with an eccentric+angled shim, much like the group A 205/309 hubs.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 03:03
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pdd144c
Senior User Location: Southampton Registered: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 550 Status: Offline |
Post #184
Nah not unless you give me silly money.Ah ok, did Peugeot Sport ever make anything similar for the 306? Any reason that the 205 ones can't be used?! Been a while since I've looked at a 205 hub! ________________________________________ FOR SALE205 Turbo Technics complete and 306 Rallye Race Build breaking. |
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Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 03:17
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #185
I don't know if there was anything like that for the 306, might be an idea to ask Carl Chambers nicely if you can have a peek at his Touring car.For using 205 hubs on a 306, they use a smaller 16mm balljoint pin like a phase 1 306 so they may need replacing more often, not that they are expensive. (have to be 1.9 hubs to fit the driveshafts and discs) they're also not the hollow cast construction of later 306 hubs, though I don't think that affects them much. There's also the factor of getting hold of any, I only remember seeing one set on ebay or the forums in the past few years. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 03:22
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #186
Same fitting in the damper area so the theory will suit both, I know the ones I had on my 309 when sleeved to gain some neggy which was a direct copy of the old PTS one's.I would think that any 306 phase 1 hub would be fine, I know most 309's used the 205 1.9 type hub. ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 04:04
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pdd144c
Senior User Location: Southampton Registered: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 550 Status: Offline |
Post #187
Mmm... Thank you both for the info! Will give Martin a shout as he is also making some new hubs for his. Where did you get them sleeved Miles? Something you can still have done? Or do you still have the 309 ones so we could get them copied?! Just seen the 306 Peugeot Sport wishbone kit, but at something silly like £700 plus VAT I'll exhaust all other avenues first! Still like the idea of a new design of ball joint, as they could be bolt on and could be supplied as a kit once developed.________________________________________ FOR SALE205 Turbo Technics complete and 306 Rallye Race Build breaking. |
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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 00:46
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miles
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Post #188
Went with the car, I think Allen Allen has it up North, Neil had it done years ago but I'll find out if he can still get it done________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 01:29
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pdd144c
Senior User Location: Southampton Registered: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 550 Status: Offline |
Post #189
Cheers. Yeah Rob said he thought Neil used to have them done.________________________________________ FOR SALE205 Turbo Technics complete and 306 Rallye Race Build breaking. |
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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 02:15
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Denis
Regular  Location: Cambridge Registered: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 493 Status: Offline |
Post #190
I just recently sold to Sweden my front hubs with extra camber  Basically the socket for the damper was drilled out at an angle and sleeves made up to clump the strut. Ash got mine done, but unless several sets are machined it is not economical to do any more. I think that Skip Brown can do the machining as well.I am actually working on some new top mounts with extra 2 deg of castor and adjustable camber 1 to ~4deg. Not sure when they are going to be ready - just finishing the draft drawings. ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye Project threadWhiteBMW M140i |
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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 03:45
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #191
BBM have started selling their top mounts, castor and camber adjustable, though not sure quite how much you can get with them.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 22:57
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #192
miles wrote: Went with the car, I think Allen Allen has it up North, Neil had it done years ago but I'll find out if he can still get it done Unfortunatley I didn't get the hubs with the shell and I believe the guy I got the shell off had already moved them on. ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 7th Oct 2010 at 00:10
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craigm
Junior User  Location: Wigan Registered: 26 Sep 2010 Posts: 54 Status: Offline |
Post #193
Great car this! Been watching this build quite closley, great attention to detail  ________________________________________ 6 Project Coming Soon |
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Posted 8th Oct 2010 at 14:41
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro  Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #194
I think saw you today on the A31. Does it have a number 91 on the rear quarter?________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 11th Oct 2010 at 04:41
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pdd144c
Senior User Location: Southampton Registered: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 550 Status: Offline |
Post #195
How do you aim to get 4 then Dennis?Shame that, I'm going to speak to a machine shop in the next week or so about costs to sleeve some. Yeah might have been, number 94 on the doors and rear screen! ________________________________________ FOR SALE205 Turbo Technics complete and 306 Rallye Race Build breaking. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2010 at 18:04
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pdd144c
Senior User Location: Southampton Registered: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 550 Status: Offline |
Post #196
Trackday has been and gone, few issues to fix, nothing major though. I have just machined the front hubs to give an extra 2 degrees negative, will be fitted in the next week or so. If anyone wants any making let me know, be about £240 plus P&P if bare hubs are supplied, need the bearings removing before the work is carried out. I can do that for a few extra quid if needed.________________________________________ FOR SALE205 Turbo Technics complete and 306 Rallye Race Build breaking. |
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Posted 8th Dec 2010 at 12:35
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rallye1999
Senior User  Location: redcar Registered: 05 Jul 2009 Posts: 718 Status: Offline |
Post #197
pdd144c wrote: Trackday has been and gone, few issues to fix, nothing major though. I have just machined the front hubs to give an extra 2 degrees negative, will be fitted in the next week or so. If anyone wants any making let me know, be about £240 plus P&P if bare hubs are supplied, need the bearings removing before the work is carried out. I can do for a few extra quid if needed. Tempting, after Christmas though |
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Posted 8th Dec 2010 at 04:51
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pdd144c
Senior User Location: Southampton Registered: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 550 Status: Offline |
Post #198
Few pics from Brands:    ________________________________________ FOR SALE205 Turbo Technics complete and 306 Rallye Race Build breaking. |
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Posted 9th Dec 2010 at 02:37
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,304 Status: Offline |
Post #199
 where you working now then?________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 9th Dec 2010 at 02:43
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #200
looks awsome ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 9th Dec 2010 at 04:15
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