Post #51
to be fair they look pretty well made, not as beefy as the ones 500 quid more, but look up to the job, Matty hasnt had any problems has he with them
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 chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 11th Mar 2009 at 04:11
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puglover
Banned! Location: Far out there Registered: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 6,095 Status: Offline |
Post #52
sounds to me like binka bought the wossner rods and then realised like i did that they are 20mm gudgeon pin, had them rebushed to 22mm and they wern't upto the job anyway.matty rallye has the chinese rods on 240hp so they might be ok. not running monster power though yet and we know standard rods will take that so its anyones guess. |
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Posted 11th Mar 2009 at 05:35
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bininoz
Seasoned Pro  Location: Arnside Registered: 08 Jul 2007 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
Post #53
Having re read it sounds like that to me aswell read it in a rush before. So lets wait and see would have thought forged steel rods should be able to take jsut over 100bhp more than standard rods. ________________________________________ Team High Boost Supercharged Gti-6™ |
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Posted 11th Mar 2009 at 05:40
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midlife
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
Post #54
My rods arrived today from China, only ordered them last week. I wonder if I should have ordered my Carbon petrol cap trims from China too   ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!! Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker  Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 11th Mar 2009 at 05:40
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bininoz
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Post #55
midlife wrote: My rods arrived today from China, only ordered them last week. I wonder if I should have ordered my Carbon petrol cap trims from China too  ________________________________________ Team High Boost Supercharged Gti-6™ |
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Posted 11th Mar 2009 at 06:04
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zac
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds city centre Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 2,627 Status: Offline |
Post #56
Too many jumping to premature conclusions I think, including myself.  I'm not worried. Sort of. ________________________________________ Hit the limiter in 6th gear at 169mph (GPS - TomTom on the German autobahn). Still pulling like a train too. Cheers- Phase 3 GTi-6 (409hp 'charged weekend toy) - Phase 2.5 Rallye (daily driver) R.I.P Pete Sims |
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Posted 11th Mar 2009 at 18:41
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mabgti
NV motors  Location: Bham tunnel @7400rpm Registered: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 9,127 Status: Offline |
Post #57
They'll be fine.... ________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6NV Motorsport Automotive Performance Tuning 0121 448 7515 ECU Remapping/ DPF removal VAG/BMW Diag and Option Coding Peugeot Planet ECU coding/transponder programming etc www.nvmotorsport.com Facebook Page Project S6 |
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Posted 11th Mar 2009 at 20:13
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #58
midlife wrote: My rods arrived today from China, only ordered them last week. I wonder if I should have ordered my Carbon petrol cap trims from China too  They can make almost anything in China very very quickly, once their quality gets up to scratch with that of say Germany then they will be a force to be reckoned with  ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 11th Mar 2009 at 20:44
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jcphat
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the day room, Nurse! Registered: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1,061 Status: Offline |
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quote: They can make almost anything in China very very quickly, once their quality gets up to scratch with that of say Germany then they will be a force to be reckoned with Will be? The only economy of any substance in the world not in recession.... brush up on mandarin to do any business for the next few years!! ________________________________________ New Forum same high quality intellectual debate!Team Zimmer™ |
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Posted 11th Mar 2009 at 23:26
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binkagti
Seasoned Pro  Location: canterbury Registered: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,411 Status: Offline |
Post #60
Ok boys and girls i did get my conrods through PEC, BUT, how much torque will you guys be putting them through. Remember i was putting almost 450ft/lbs on them, this seems to be the reason why they have broken.Hope this helps guys ________________________________________ TEAM Supercharged Rallye |
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Posted 11th Mar 2009 at 23:41
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bininoz
Seasoned Pro Location: Arnside Registered: 08 Jul 2007 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
Post #61
That makes me feel a whole lot happier. It's circa 280 lb/ft ________________________________________ Team High Boost Supercharged Gti-6™ |
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Posted 12th Mar 2009 at 03:47
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #62
So hows this coming along Carl?What else are you uprating on the engine? Big end bearings, main bearings, head studs? ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 25th Mar 2009 at 18:44
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zac
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds city centre Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 2,627 Status: Offline |
Post #63
Will all be standard stuff as far as I'm aware.________________________________________ Hit the limiter in 6th gear at 169mph (GPS - TomTom on the German autobahn). Still pulling like a train too. Cheers- Phase 3 GTi-6 (409hp 'charged weekend toy) - Phase 2.5 Rallye (daily driver) R.I.P Pete Sims |
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Posted 26th Mar 2009 at 17:44
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willygti
Seasoned Pro  Location: Exeter Registered: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,024 Status: Offline |
Post #64
To be fair, i'm going to hear this from Exeter ________________________________________ Team Ducati 7482003 Subaru Impreza STi |
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Posted 26th Mar 2009 at 17:48
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro  Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #65
zac wrote: Will all be standard stuff as far as I'm aware. You want to use a lead-copper type big-end bearing - they are a lot more durable than the aluminium type OEM bearings. I spun a big end when I used the OEM ally big-end shells, although this was when I used standard rods/Total oil too. I think the failure was down to the oil more than the bearings though. Use the best oil you can, film strength is crucial. Standard mains will be fine though.  ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 26th Mar 2009 at 17:55
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sussitout
Seasoned Pro  Location: Kington Registered: 05 May 2003 Posts: 5,985 Status: Offline |
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rich_w wrote: zac wrote: Will all be standard stuff as far as I'm aware. You want to use a lead-copper type big-end bearing - they are a lot more durable than the aluminium type OEM bearings. I spun a big end when I used the OEM ally big-end shells, although this was when I used standard rods/Total oil too. I think the failure was down to the oil more than the bearings though. Use the best oil you can, film strength is crucial. Standard mains will be fine though. Can I swap mine for yours Rich. Yours seems a T 1000 as in Terminator build quality. ________________________________________ White 6: 2003 > Grumpychef in 2009; Diablo 6 2003 > Dafydd in 2004 > Yeomans > where is it now? Red Rallye 2004 > Wayne1 early in 2007 > itsagass 2009. Astor 6 bought April 2005 > Dave. Durham Co. |
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Posted 26th Mar 2009 at 17:57
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captaink
Senior User  Location: Exeter Registered: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 579 Status: Offline |
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willygti wrote: To be fair, i'm going to hear this from Exeter Get the popcorn ready and we could both listen along. ________________________________________ When I got home last night, my G/F demanded that I take her somewhere expensive - so, I took her to a petrol station.1993 L reg 205 with GTi6 engine and GTi6 brakes 1995 M reg FTO GPX manual |
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Posted 26th Mar 2009 at 18:38
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #68
Whats the plan with the head then Carl, work being done on that?________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 26th Mar 2009 at 20:58
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro  Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #69
Bit of an update for you guysI have built up the head, had the valve seats done etc and all the guides checked and where fine, slight head skim just to make sure its perfectly flat and was fitted to the block. Gave the head a good chemical clean and fitted a set of my painted cam carriers and the water/thermostat housing (will be very bling in the bay)-    Its all more or less there now, will, have some rocker covers put on it then its a case of just fitting all the parts from the old low boost engine and slot it into the bay. Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 27th Mar 2009 at 03:06
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zac
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds city centre Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 2,627 Status: Offline |
Post #70
________________________________________ Hit the limiter in 6th gear at 169mph (GPS - TomTom on the German autobahn). Still pulling like a train too. Cheers- Phase 3 GTi-6 (409hp 'charged weekend toy) - Phase 2.5 Rallye (daily driver) R.I.P Pete Sims |
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Posted 27th Mar 2009 at 04:55
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #71
er, are those your painted cam ladders on someone else's head?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Mar 2009 at 03:23
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #72
Looking awesome mate,bet you cant wait to get it back now!  |
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Posted 27th Mar 2009 at 03:24
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #73
welshpug! wrote: er, are those your painted cam ladders on someone else's head? Cant pick fault here mate, my head with original cam carriers, i do this for a living! Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 27th Mar 2009 at 03:51
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #74
wasn't picking fault, just the wording led me to believe something not good was done, not doubting your knowledge!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Mar 2009 at 04:07
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #75
Looking good Carl, very bling When's it due to be fitted and mapped etc? You need to change one of your cam cover mounting studs - you have a P1 style in the head and P2/P3 in the block  ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 27th Mar 2009 at 15:24
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