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 phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #351
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 Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 00:55
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #352
Well, it's arrived, and the fit looks excellent, very close to the shell all the way round and it doesnt look like there will be much need of cage to shell gusset plates but I will probably chuck a few on anyway as they look the part.The drive back was interesting though with my instrument cluster taped to my steering column and no functioning indicators either!  Anyway, heres a few pics to give you an idea of the fit, ignore the mess (I did'nt do it!)              That should keep me busy for a while... ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 04:48
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #353
Much better fit that  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 04:57
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #354
Yeah but I can't see how I'll be able to drop the hoop down to weld the a pillar/roof bars?________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 05:03
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #355
Snap the tacks on the rear hoop off the main hoop, pull it out of the way, then do the same with the 2 main feet that they've put in under the hoop, and twist the whole cage downwards - you'll probably find you'll need to take the door cross out to get it to flex past the rear seat area, cause you have to squeeze the bottom of the hoop in, he-man style - then you should have *just* enough to weld the top of the main hoop.edit: no front strut tubes/dash bar? ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 05:10
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #356
phillipm wrote: edit: no front strut tubes? They have supplied them, and the windscreen bar, they are just not pictured.  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 05:10
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #357
Ah, left you the fun bit then!  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 05:12
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #358
I expect I can get busy with a ratchet strap or something to pull the legs of the hoop together while I pull it forward at the the bottom. I just know I'm going to end up with something I can't get at!  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 05:13
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #359
Yeah, the ones on Rikky's were sprung in slightly anyway, so it wasn't too hard to get it that bit further - but had to push it out with a 2-ton panel press once the feet were back in to get it up to the bodyshell - didn't take much force, just easier to hold whilst it was tacked back in.It is a bugger to get in there even so - you're nearly at 90* with the torch at the top. Tin opener on the roof skin would be favorite.... ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 05:23
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #360
phillipm wrote: Yeah, the ones on Rikky's were sprung in slightly anyway, so it wasn't too hard to get it that bit further - but had to push it out with a 2-ton panel press once the feet were back in to get it up to the bodyshell - didn't take much force, just easier to hold whilst it was tacked back in. It is a bugger to get in there even so - you're nearly at 90* with the torch at the top. Tin opener on the roof skin would be favorite.... Good excuse for a carbon roof?  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 06:05
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puglover
Banned! Location: Far out there Registered: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 6,095 Status: Offline |
Post #361
f*ck me thats tight  i reckon im taking my roof off to do mine. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 06:16
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #362
^^It'd be a lot easier!That cage fit so much better than the other ones its silly - good job you got in touch Jim! ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 06:19
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #363
looks good, but those main hoop feet look rather too small and thin to me?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 15:47
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #364
Possibly, but the bottom of the hoop overlaps the main chassis rail (Sill) which is very strong, the plate therefore does'nt need to be very big.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 16:18
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #365
depends waht regs you're working to, I would always make them to MSA minimum then you can sell the car to whoever you want to when you get bored with it, increasing its value drastically, rather than just being a track car...the main chassis rail really isn't that strong.... bit of 3mm plate, 120cm2, whatever shape that suits for the main 4 points, rears 60cm2 each. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 17:13
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #366
welshpug! wrote: looks good, but those main hoop feet look rather too small and thin to me? They're bigger than they look, I measured 'em to be sure. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 17:23
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #367
cool ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 17:35
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #368
and how the f*ck do you paint it? |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 18:00
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #369
Ask Rikky ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 18:06
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #370
remove roof, throw in tin of paint, rotate car on a rollover jig numerous times.nah i just red oxide primered the welded areas and hammerite matt-black'ed it it was a completely bare shell when i painted it though, no windows doors etc anything.. ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 18:16
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #371
Not the old Mr.Bean firework trick then?________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 18:15
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #372
reminds me actually i need to chase my welding sample up to make sure it's ok to fit the cage...  after all the arseache if they don't give me the certificate i will be on the riot path and be getting it checked elsewhere hopefully ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 18:20
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #373
________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 18:22
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #374
we could try that on jims, fill it with paint and roll it down the street |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 19:06
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #375
hammerite spray is fine unless you want to go down the compressor and gun route. i couldn't be arsed and got an excellent finish with cans doing very light coats. just make sure you treat the welds well and the underneath incase it's f*cked your underseali've got the front end of mine in bits as i speak with no wings etc or anything on the front, treating the chassis legs ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 1st Aug 2009 at 19:10
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