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fletch

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Post #76
birk wrote:
My bottom rad hose is leaking aswell fletch, where you get the new O-ring from ?

Project looks good, are you doing this as we speak aswell ?


From Pug mate.

Not sure what you mean by that last question? Unsure
Posted 6th Jan 2009 at 05:48
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Post #77
must be one heck of a buzz when your first about to start this for the first time, bit like the excitement as a kid on xmas day after seeing santas been.
god job matey

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Posted 6th Jan 2009 at 05:51
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Post #78
Excellent, i'll go get one orderd, mines got bit of a leak aswell LOL

I just thought for some reason you had already done this and was posting old pics, ie... updating it when you cud be arsed to post pics and write a little. dont know why LOL

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Posted 6th Jan 2009 at 05:52
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Post #79
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Excellent, i'll go get one orderd, mines got bit of a leak aswell LOL

I just thought for some reason you had already done this and was posting old pics, ie... updating it when you cud be arsed to post pics and write a little. dont know why LOL


Probably coz youre right Laugh
Posted 6th Jan 2009 at 05:53
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Is that the classic Ebay US Rx-7 intercooler i spy mate?Laugh
Posted 6th Jan 2009 at 06:12
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Post #81
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Is that the classic Ebay US Rx-7 intercooler i spy mate?Laugh


every man and his dogs got one of them now Whistle

looking good Thumbs up

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Posted 6th Jan 2009 at 07:01
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Post #82
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roland rat wrote:
Is that the classic Ebay US Rx-7 intercooler i spy mate?Laugh


every man and his dogs got one of them now Whistle

looking good Thumbs up



Common as muck nowadays clickyWhistle

Fletch, are you aware that you have mounted your intercooler approx

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Posted 6th Jan 2009 at 10:16
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Post #83
Is that a 3" outlet/inlet on that intercooler then like the one in Midlifes clicky?

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Posted 6th Jan 2009 at 14:21
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Post #84
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Is that a 3" outlet/inlet on that intercooler then like the one in Midlifes clicky?


Yup Yes

Big mutha I/C Laugh
Posted 6th Jan 2009 at 14:48
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Post #85
fletch wrote:
rallyestyle wrote:
Is that a 3" outlet/inlet on that intercooler then like the one in Midlifes clicky?


Yup Yes

Big mutha I/C Laugh


Cool Smile Now see your using reducers to get it onto the 2.5" piping Yes Who was it that welded the angled pipe straight onto the IC? Was that Rich?

Have you any plans for the gearbox too Matt?

Cheers Smile

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Posted 6th Jan 2009 at 15:03
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Post #86
rallyestyle wrote:
fletch wrote:
rallyestyle wrote:
Is that a 3" outlet/inlet on that intercooler then like the one in Midlifes clicky?


Yup Yes

Big mutha I/C Laugh


Cool Smile Now see your using reducers to get it onto the 2.5" piping Yes Who was it that welded the angled pipe straight onto the IC? Was that Rich?

Have you any plans for the gearbox too Matt?

Cheers Smile


Dunno Might have been Robin?

Gearbox is standard bar the Quaiffe ATB for now, might have the gearset Shot-peened or Cryogenically hardened eventually.
Posted 6th Jan 2009 at 15:06
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Post #87
I recognise that intercooler Wayne Shifty

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Posted 6th Jan 2009 at 16:28
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Post #88
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I recognise that intercooler Wayne Shifty


Yup i've got one just like it under the bedNinja

Cool

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Posted 7th Jan 2009 at 09:34
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Post #89
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joker wrote:
I recognise that intercooler Wayne Shifty


Yup i've got one just like it under the bedNinja

Cool


We've all seen the fag packet comparison Laugh
Posted 7th Jan 2009 at 14:05
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Post #90
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I recognise that intercooler Wayne Shifty


I recognise that too Shifty

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Posted 7th Jan 2009 at 15:39
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Post #91
The battery was charged up, refitted, and the engine cranked over on the starter to build up oil pressure.
The PAS was leaking at the high pressure joint, which was promptly tightened and fixed.

Filling up the rad, highlighted a massive leak from the water pump. Sad
I was very confused as I didn't think I had pinched the gasket when fitting. On removal of the water pump and inspection it looks like the gasket was not manufactured 100% correctly and the seal was slightly lower in some places than others. You'd be hard pressed to spot it though. Roll eyes Angry

So I sealed up the pump gasket, refitted the pump and timed up the engine again - something I find easier with the 136 tooth belt. The rad was refilled and it seemed to be holding water ok now.

The supercharger oil circuit was hooked up and primed ready for startup.

First startup

Moment of truth:
The car turned over and over but no fuel or spark. I set about changing relays, cam, crank sensors, checking fuses and wiring, fuel cut off switch.
Speaking to Rich, he was confident that the ECU chip needed reseating. It was indeed mounted slightly too deep in its socket. Sure enough on refitting, the fuel pump primed, the car started on the key and fired into life Big grin Wizard

However...


...the engine immediately started to rev up, which I didn't fancy given the engine is on zero miles Laugh Roll eyes

So I set about trying to identify any air leaks, and tightened up all the boost piping and vacuum pipes. This helped a little but the car was still idling at 2.5kish. I moved onto checking the stepper, vacuum pipes and throttle assembly for leaks.

I got the idle down to a fluctuating 1-1.5k and then after more boost pipe tweaks the engine was idling nicely at 900rpm. Cool

One of the issues I was concerned about was whether the head would tap or not (remember it was a previous snapper which was supposedly repaired without tapping. I did find a bent valve during the rebuild however). I figured if it did the head could come off get stripped down and new valve guides fitted. But all seems fine in that respect.

I discovered that the high pressure PAS pipe was still leaking a lot and I had an oil leak from what looked like the front of the sump. Looking carefully, it was actually leaking from further up the block. On removing the starter motor I traced the oil leak back to an oil gallery blanking plug, and the oil level sensor on the front of the block. Tightening these up cured the leak. The PAS leak seems to be due to a missing seal in the pipe - I must have fitted the pipe without it Dunno

With these annoying leaks fixed, and all fluids topped up, it was time to finish refitting the trim, engine mount cradle and battery box etc. The slam panel was then secured to the chassis and headlights connected back up etc.

I dropped the car back down on it's wheels to check the boost pipe clearance which was too low really.

So I cut down the pipes a little to give a bit more clearance until they can be welded up and mounted higher. Once the pipes were secured again I attempted to refit the bumper. I soon realised it was fouling on the intercooler in a few places. This necessitated the use of a hacksaw to cut the bumper in strategic places until it fitted back on. Hacksawing through the nail on my thumb was not part of the plan though Angry

The hub nuts were tightened up and the car dropped back down on the wheels. Smile
Posted 8th Jan 2009 at 15:11
rallyestyle

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Post #92
Well done mate Clapping

Shame about the thumb, you wouldnt be working on a pug without some sort of injury though Yes

So the IC needs to be mounted higher to give more clearance on the pipes then?

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Posted 8th Jan 2009 at 15:47
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Post #93
rallyestyle wrote:
Well done mate Clapping

Shame about the thumb, you wouldnt be working on a pug without some sort of injury though Yes

So the IC needs to be mounted higher to give more clearance on the pipes then?


Possibly a fraction. The pipes clear speed bumps now and will be higher soon when properly sorted so we'll see.
Posted 8th Jan 2009 at 16:17
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Congrats matt.. Great to see a finished DIY. Presume run in is going well.Thumbs up

Looks like its been built well.. You gona drive up waynes any time soon?

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Posted 11th Jan 2009 at 16:49
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Thanks mabs, running in is going well. Not planning on a trip to waynes yet unless he can cure my stalling issue, but i've got a few things to try first.
Posted 12th Jan 2009 at 02:07
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sweet... i may be down your way soonNinja

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Posted 12th Jan 2009 at 05:10
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Post #97
how are you going about running it in matey?

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Posted 12th Jan 2009 at 05:38
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Post #98
andy+katie wrote:
how are you going about running it in matey?


Low revs for a few hundred miles, with lots of WOT and vacuum to seal the rings, and a couple of oil changes.
Posted 12th Jan 2009 at 13:38
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Post #99
how did you find the engine build mate?? was it simple enough?

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Posted 12th Jan 2009 at 13:54
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Post #100
andy+katie wrote:
how did you find the engine build mate?? was it simple enough?


Yeah simple enough, just take your time and be methodical. Wink

Helps if you have a large clear area to work in.
Posted 12th Jan 2009 at 14:29

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