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pugheaven

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Post #76
106lad wrote:
Theyre not Ferrari brakes though, theyre brembos with stickers Smile


No they are ferrari calipers
Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 08:04
Rich E Forum Admin

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Post #77
pugheaven wrote:
106lad wrote:
Theyre not Ferrari brakes though, theyre brembos with stickers Smile


No they are ferrari calipers

Nothing unique about that caliper. It's an off the shelf Brembo item with Ferrari sprayed onto it.

Besides, this info from the Alfa boys says the GT caliper used on the 406 is better anyway (larger pistons and the same pad shape).

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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 09:20
pugheaven

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Post #78
i know what you are saying but they are from a ferrari not just 406 brembos with a sticker, they are radial mounted aswell.
Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 20:55
nozy306

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Post #79
I have some Alcon brakes from a 206 cup. is someone who has used such on 306?
must find the right brake disk,
so was wondering if there was one here who knows it, or whether it is possible


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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 17:14
ash

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Post #80
Are they Lug Mounted and bolt directly to the 306 hub? I suspect you will need to find the adapter or get one made and then use the exact size, thickness and offset disc/rotor as the206 cup. What size is that?
Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 20:14
nozy306

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Post #81
mounted directly on the hub. I can not put on the plate adapters. is not approved in Norway without TUF pappir. but this I do not know much about: (



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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 21:31
daicarvideoguy

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Post #82
Talking about 4 Pot's
I have seen a set of Silver Brembro's from a fiat 20valve turbo forsale on eBay, would I be right in thinking that with a set of 288 xantia disks they will fit under 15inch cyclones? But I might have squel issues?

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Posted 20th Feb 2012 at 09:39
welshpug!

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Post #83
you'd need an adapter from caliper to peugeot hub.

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Posted 20th Feb 2012 at 09:49
daicarvideoguy

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Post #84
Would I need the adapter if I went with 406 Brembro's ? Can I get the adapters on here?

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Posted 20th Feb 2012 at 09:56
welshpug!

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Post #85
406 ones fit straight on with the 288 discs.

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Posted 20th Feb 2012 at 10:15
eliotrw

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Post #86
Anyone know why nico didn't use 310mm like the ones that come with a 807 v6?

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Posted 10th Mar 2012 at 11:05
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Post #87
Do those discs fit directly with the Citroen Sport caliper adaptors?

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Posted 10th Mar 2012 at 13:33
eliotrw

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Post #88
I dunno , I guess the space between the caliper and hub could be different.
I've lost the info on the c2r2 now... used to have it bookmarked bit I suppose even that could be spaced differently

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Posted 10th Mar 2012 at 14:47
armzsc6

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Post #89
Just something worth noting, the setup I just bought has 406 brembo's and 285mm 206gti180 discs. They look to be standard discs as not drilled or grooved or anything and they hardly seem to squeal at all only under very light braking from one side.
However personally I think they should not be used with the brembo's as their thickness is only 26mm which is the min thickness for the standard 305mm discs. Therefore once the 26mm discs get warn you run the risk of popping a piston out of the caliper :/. Will be getting (288x28) discs in a week or so when I get paid.

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Posted 29th Aug 2012 at 10:23
coskev

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Post #90
armzs16 wrote:
Just something worth noting, the setup I just bought has 406 brembo's and 285mm 206gti180 discs. They look to be standard discs as not drilled or grooved or anything and they hardly seem to squeal at all only under very light braking from one side.
However personally I think they should not be used with the brembo's as their thickness is only 26mm which is the min thickness for the standard 305mm discs. Therefore once the 26mm discs get warn you run the risk of popping a piston out of the caliper :/. Will be getting (288x28) discs in a week or so when I get paid.


I can't see that TBH,pretty sure they would not have made the pistons that easy to pop outThumbs up

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Posted 29th Aug 2012 at 18:27
armzsc6

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Post #91
I meant once the 26mm discs wear down as well as the pads. Seen it a few times on cars with very lipped front discs and warn pads where the piston has leaked fluid everywhere as the piston has moved out past it's seal as the brakes are so warn. This is the point in a min disc thickness from the manufacturer as well as disc strength obviously.The 26mm ones on mine are nearly new so not a problem for now but going 28 soon.

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Posted 31st Aug 2012 at 11:05
staley_306

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Post #92
pugheaven wrote:
i know what you are saying but they are from a ferrari not just 406 brembos with a sticker, they are radial mounted aswell.


They are just of the self brembos. Same with porsche, lambo, audi etc..
Posted 31st Aug 2012 at 11:27
buzzbrightyear

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Post #93
armzs16 wrote:
I meant once the 26mm discs wear down as well as the pads. Seen it a few times on cars with very lipped front discs and warn pads where the piston has leaked fluid everywhere as the piston has moved out past it's seal as the brakes are so warn. This is the point in a min disc thickness from the manufacturer as well as disc strength obviously.The 26mm ones on mine are nearly new so not a problem for now but going 28 soon.


I once ran the rear shoes down so far in a Toyota thy it popped the pistons out of the brake cylinder inside the drum, s**t my pants moment.

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Posted 31st Aug 2012 at 17:28
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Post #94
armzs16 wrote:
This is the point in a min disc thickness from the manufacturer as well as disc strength obviously..


Strength is the reason for min disc thickness recomendationsThumbs up

I've seen cars where the whole friction part of pads has gone and the pistons are still nowhere near popping outDunno

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Posted 31st Aug 2012 at 19:43
daver6

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Post #95
daicarvideoguy wrote:
Talking about 4 Pot's
I have seen a set of Silver Brembro's from a fiat 20valve turbo forsale on eBay, would I be right in thinking that with a set of 288 xantia disks they will fit under 15inch cyclones? But I might have squel issues?


We have one at work, but the standard wheels are 16's

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Posted 2nd Sep 2012 at 14:21
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Post #96
1. Compbrake B4 4 Pots with 280x26 Rotors to fit 15" (CompBrake) - 2 piece discs
2. Willwood 4 Pots with 283x22 GTI6 Discs 15" (welly)
3. 406 V6 Brembo with GTI180 285x26 Discs 15" (ash)
4. 406 V6 Brembo with Xantia 288x28 Discs 15" (?)
5. AP BTCC 4 Pots with 295x26 Rotors 15" (VLR) - 2 piece discs
6. AP CP5200 4 Pots with 310x28 Rotors 15" (Prism7guy) - 2 piece discs
7. Fiat/Alfa Brembos with 305x28 406 V6 Discs 16" (tomtomtom)
8. AP 4 Pots with 305x28 406 V6 Discs 16" (rallyestyle)
9. Brembo GT 4 pot with 406 305mm disc 16"
10. Clio 197 Brembos with 305x28 406 V6 Discs 16"(rich_w)
11. Clio 197 Brembos with 310x28 Rotors 16" (ash) - 2 piece discs
12. 406 V6 Brembo with 310x28 Rotors 16" (ash) - 2 piece discs
13. Hi Spec Billet 4 calipers on 325mm, 2 piece discs. (lee gti6)
14. GSR Inv. 4-pots with 330x26mm scolloped rotors. (PhillipM) - 3 piece discs
15. 406 V6 Brembos with 330x28 Rotors 17" (ash) - 2 piece discs
16. Compbrake Pro7 Brembos with 330x32 Rotors 17" (ash) - 2 piece discs
17. 406 V6 Brembo's with (2 piece disc, red bells..) 330x28 rotor's 17" (aknight)
18. AP CP6600 4 pot calipers and two piece AP 330x28 discs - plenty of room inside 7x17 2120 speedlines (martinj)
18. Ex SubaruWRC 4 PotAlcon's with 28mm by 300mm rotors which just sqeeze under 15's

19. Hi-spec 4 pots billet conversion with 300mm bell and rotor. Will only go under 16" wheels this way. However if you run a different Caliper bracket and 285mm discs with 10mm spacers you can get them under clones Wink

6-pots:

1. KAD 6pots with 285x28 discs 15" (Binka & Gti6boy) - 1 piece
2.)Tarox 6-pots 310mm Belled discs, 17" TSW's (Steve_h gti6,) - 2 piece discs.

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Posted 9th May 2013 at 17:53
Takedown

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Post #97
Bow down to your king

330x32mm from 407 V6 with some huge ass calipers





tiny 4 pots, lol Wink
Posted 9th May 2013 at 19:20
Day666

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Post #98
ash wrote:
So far this club has fitted the following 4 pot kits in order of disc size (originator shown):

1. Compbrake B4 4 Pots with 280x26 Rotors to fit 15" (CompBrake)
2. Willwood 4 Pots with 283x22 GTI6 Discs 15" (welly)
3. 406 V6 Brembo with GTI180 285x26 Discs 15" (ash)
4. 406 V6 Brembo with Xantia 288x28 Discs 15" (Welly)
5. AP BTCC 4 Pots with 295x26 Rotors 15" (VLR)
6. Fiat/Alfa Brembos with 305x28 406 V6 Discs 16" (tomtomtom)
7. AP 4 Pots with 305x28 406 V6 Discs 16" (rallyestyle)
8. Clio 197 Brembos with 305x28 406 V6 Discs 16"(rich_w)
9. Clio 197 Brembos with 310x28 Rotors 16" (ash)
10. 406 V6 Brembo with 310x28 Rotors 16" (ash)
11. 406 V6 Brembos with 330x28 Rotors 17" (ash)
12. Compbrake Pro7 Brembos with 330x32 Rotors 17" (ash)
13. 406 V6 Brembos with 330x28 Rotors 17'' (ash).

If you know any more proven conversions, please feel free to add them...
Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 14:30
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Post #99
Takedown wrote:
Bow down to your king

330x32mm from 407 V6 with some huge ass calipers





tiny 4 pots, lol Wink


Winning, that cars a beast :cool

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Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 15:28
buzzbrightyear

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Post #100
buzzbrightyear wrote:
armzs16 wrote:
I meant once the 26mm discs wear down as well as the pads. Seen it a few times on cars with very lipped front discs and warn pads where the piston has leaked fluid everywhere as the piston has moved out past it's seal as the brakes are so warn. This is the point in a min disc thickness from the manufacturer as well as disc strength obviously.The 26mm ones on mine are nearly new so not a problem for now but going 28 soon.


I once ran the rear shoes down so far in a Toyota thy it popped the pistons out of the brake cylinder inside the drum, s**t my pants moment.


Actually thinking back, this happened because I was too lazy to adjust the rear brakes, the gap between the show and drum was so big that it popped the piston out the cylinder

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Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 18:38

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