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 jcphat
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 Posted 3rd Dec 2008 at 20:10
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cosmic spanner
Moral objector  Location: North London Registered: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 10,399 Status: Offline |
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They're not after me - I don't have HIDs ________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch....Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Project é - my 306 project thread. |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2008 at 20:15
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jcphat
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You have posted about them though........________________________________________ New Forum same high quality intellectual debate!Team Zimmer™ |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2008 at 20:40
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shutie
Senior User  Location: Cunningsburgh, Shetland Registered: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 509 Status: Offline |
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tom tom go wrote: Im sorry but this sounds like a right load of bo***cks, im bored at my job as its tedious so im going to pump everyone full of lead many many many people do boring tedious jobs that they hate but they dont go round shooting people ! And they also believe that HID's may cause this aswell ?!?!?!  sorry but im not buying that shite. Nearly all car manufacturers now produce cars with HID's as standard, if there was even a whiff that side effects such as this could occurr then they wouldn't even bother fitting them due to possible future implications surely ? yeah i think before some of these people 'snapped' before killing their co-workers, there was a screw loose somewhere upstairs...  |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2008 at 21:26
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captaink
Senior User  Location: Exeter Registered: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 579 Status: Offline |
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I'd say that the ballasts are on the way out. If its a cheap kit then they have been known to die quite quickly. Look at the lights from the front (on the side obviously so you don't blind yourself) and see if its only one of the bulbs flickering or both. If its just one, then odds are its either a connection of a ballast on the way out. If its both, then either the kit is ver ybad or you have an electrical problem.I have HIDs in my FTO. The FTO has projector style lights so HIDs can be fitted properly, and a good thing too as the original lighting setup is so bad you can hardly see anything at night. ________________________________________ When I got home last night, my G/F demanded that I take her somewhere expensive - so, I took her to a petrol station.1993 L reg 205 with GTi6 engine and GTi6 brakes 1995 M reg FTO GPX manual |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2008 at 21:26
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shutie
Senior User Location: Cunningsburgh, Shetland Registered: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 509 Status: Offline |
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captaink wrote: I'd say that the ballasts are on the way out. If its a cheap kit then they have been known to die quite quickly. Look at the lights from the front (on the side obviously so you don't blind yourself) and see if its only one of the bulbs flickering or both. If its just one, then odds are its either a connection of a ballast on the way out. If its both, then either the kit is ver ybad or you have an electrical problem. I have HIDs in my FTO. The FTO has projector style lights so HIDs can be fitted properly, and a good thing too as the original lighting setup is so bad you can hardly see anything at night. it is defo both of them as i have done as you said, sometimes i wonder if it is a voltage drop/gain, but again i know booger all about it. possibility?  |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2008 at 21:29
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tom tom go
Tom Tom GONE!!  Location: Doncaster Registered: 29 May 2008 Posts: 1,926 Status: Offline |
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cosmic spanner wrote: tom tom go wrote: Nearly all car manufacturers now produce cars with HID's as standard, if there was even a whiff that side effects such as this could occurr then they wouldn't even bother fitting them due to possible future implications surely ? You have to look at who's behind HID technology. Bosch and Osram are two of the biggest. How much money do you think they make from regular halogen bulbs? pennies per car (at manufacturer's rates). How much do you think they get supplying all the ballasts, lamp units and all that for HID. Much better. And look it's all bright and blue and everyone wants to look cool, so manufacturers are only too happy to fit them and charge a bit more too Most importantly both Bosch and Osram are in balls-deep with the EU and the US FDA - they have to be, as they have those lucrative medical contracts.... So you can bet your arse 1) they'll be like teflon if HID turns out to be the next Asbestos. and 2) they'll probably sell the anti-psychotic drugs needed to treat people that they've made ill!  It's big business mate, it's all vested interests.. I understand your point, they have to, and do have there finger in many "pies" and therefore are easily able to make joe public believe whatever they say with convincing reports, tests and studies. I must admit what you've said does make me think twice about my own opinion on the matter however, yes it MAY be a catalyst in the eventual "flip-out" by a person but as said theres got to be a screw loose in the first place to commit such a drastic offence !  Oh yeah back on topic. . . . . . . . .erm ain't got a clue what it could be, ballasts, arc in the bulb dying, voltage drop from the battery, possible alternator problem ?! Could you not try a differnt battery from another car to see if that cures the problem, least it would cross one possible "cause" off your list ?  ________________________________________ Cherry RALLYE |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2008 at 22:40
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shutie
Senior User Location: Cunningsburgh, Shetland Registered: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 509 Status: Offline |
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i will give it a try! try all the wiring again first |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2008 at 23:52
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byebyesri
Newbie  Location: bury st edmunds Registered: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 1 Status: Offline |
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hi can anyone help, i just got some angel eyes for my 306 and was wondering do i actually need a H.I.D conversion for them to work, will they still look good without it??________________________________________ Standing Out IS The New Attention!!! |
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Posted 5th Dec 2008 at 15:59
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Rich E
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byebyesri wrote: hi can anyone help, i just got some angel eyes for my 306 and was wondering do i actually need a H.I.D conversion for them to work, will they still look good without it?? They will look awful either way so it's entirely your choice  ________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 5th Dec 2008 at 17:54
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shutie
Senior User Location: Cunningsburgh, Shetland Registered: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 509 Status: Offline |
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byebyesri wrote: hi can anyone help, i just got some angel eyes for my 306 and was wondering do i actually need a H.I.D conversion for them to work, will they still look good without it?? no but the quality of the ones i had on my old 306 was shit, so to answer your question no. thanks for hijacking my thread by the way  |
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Posted 5th Dec 2008 at 23:09
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MS
formerly manny  Location: Somewhere Registered: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 8,445 Status: Offline |
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Sorry revival time but this is quite shocking! I've recently put an aftermarket HID kit in my car and now i'm wondering whether i should remove it... |
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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 05:37
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smegal
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
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MS wrote: Sorry revival time but this is quite shocking! I've recently put an aftermarket HID kit in my car and now i'm wondering whether i should remove it... For a newer car read here hope this helps  ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 05:43
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MS
formerly manny Location: Somewhere Registered: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 8,445 Status: Offline |
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Oh nah, i'm talking about my '98 Audi A4 - i fitted a HID kit to it. There's no flicker at all but i thought there doesn't need to be any flicker. Or have i read it wrong? |
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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 05:48
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #40
I'd take the health warnings with a pinch of salt until I see the information presented by a trustworthy source, as opposed to internet hearsay. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 06:49
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phillipm
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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 07:04
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
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phillipm wrote: HDTV gives you AIDS! ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 07:08
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cosmic spanner
Moral objector Location: North London Registered: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 10,399 Status: Offline |
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phillipm wrote: HDTV gives you AIDS! Depends on what you're watching  My mission is simple: If I can stop just one person from ________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch....Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Project é - my 306 project thread. |
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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 15:51
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cosmic spanner
Moral objector Location: North London Registered: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 10,399 Status: Offline |
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MS wrote: Sorry revival time but this is quite shocking! I've recently put an aftermarket HID kit in my car and now i'm wondering whether i should remove it... definitely. Spread the word. ________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch....Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Project é - my 306 project thread. |
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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 15:52
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
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Im gonna book in at the opticians as im losing site in one eye, i have a sneaky feeling it is down to HID's Thankfully i don ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 16:14
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
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cosmic spanner wrote: annoying glare-tastic aftermarket HIDs I agree with you there though mate. Surely though they wouldn't get E marking if that was the case (not that the cheap ones will be E marked) ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 18:06
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cosmic spanner
Moral objector Location: North London Registered: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 10,399 Status: Offline |
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That's the thing. The original lamp unit, with halogen bulbs, is e-marked, back when Valeo or whoever got it tested. To get the e-marking the whole light unit (connection, bulb, lens, etc.) needs to be independently tested. OEM HID lights will also be tested this way.But gutting one light and fitting a completely different type of bulb technology in there from another is not the same thing. It's a bit like taking the front bumper + numberplate off a car that's just passed its MOT and slapping it onto a different car.. Or maybe like taking the front half of a car that's passed its MOT and welding to to the back end of a motorbike (that's also passed its MOT). Department for Transport Q&A ________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch....Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Project é - my 306 project thread. |
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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 18:28
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shutie
Senior User Location: Cunningsburgh, Shetland Registered: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 509 Status: Offline |
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i forgot about this - talk about thread revival.still got same HIDs (and flicker) but couldn't care less they haven't broken (yet) all that health warnings are a load of shit |
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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 18:44
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
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shutie wrote: all that health warnings are a load of shit Rather you than me  ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 19:01
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darkgti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bracknell Registered: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,361 Status: Offline |
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I make UV lamps for a living.Your flicker is probably down to contamination inside the bulb so a new bulb would probably sort it. From what ive seen the quality of these lamps looks relatively poor, if not its def not a loose connection but it could just be down to a cheap and nasty electronic ballast so if its occuring on just one side try switching them over and see what happens. As for all this scare mongering going on I would just ignore it to be honest. The only thing to worry about is the UV output of said lamps, xenon lamps create powerful and continuous ultra violet radiation, also there is a high level of infrared which radiates about twice as much as the sun, their luminance approaches that of the sun and exceeds it in higher powered applications - but a majority of artificial light sources emit uv on some level - your subjected to much more in general by standing in the sun to be honest. My advice is to not stare at ANY artificial light source, particularly ones that 'arc' like the bulbs in the HID kits and you will be fine! Finally as for the department of transport thing posted up I think thats a load of tosh to be honest. The lenses and/or reflectors on all car headlights are computer designed to direct light in a certain way. The HID kits put a different type of bulb in exactly the same place in the headlight unit so I dont see what the problem is! ________________________________________ Team Peugeot Sport 308 Gti�Black T'99 Gti - may she rest in peace - written off in a shunt on the A329m |
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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 20:07
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