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 shutie
Senior User  Location: Cunningsburgh, Shetland Registered: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 509 Status: Offline |
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Whilst driving i get a slight flicker every now and again, seems to go either marginally brighter or marginally darker... i have checked all connections and all seems well? im pretty p*ss poor at all things electrical. Should i be worried?  |
 Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 17:08
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cress87
Seasoned Pro  Location: Norwich Registered: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 11,360 Status: Offline |
Post #2
They are probably designed to do this to make them even more f*cking annoying than HID lights that don't flicker, just blind you. ________________________________________  You feed beefburgers to swans.  I may have been speeding Mr Policeman but [a] I live for the 306 and [b] did you see that dog? omfg |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 17:11
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cosmic spanner
Moral objector  Location: North London Registered: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 10,399 Status: Offline |
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shutie wrote: Should i be worried? These are aftermarket HIDs I presume? If so yeah I'd get it checked out - flickering on aftermarket HIDs can give you eye cancer..  ________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch....Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Project é - my 306 project thread. |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 17:12
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shutie
Senior User Location: Cunningsburgh, Shetland Registered: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 509 Status: Offline |
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i got them from midnightstyling, they were posting on here a while back. eye cancer aye?  |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 17:16
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fletch
Track Head  Location: The nearest Shell garage Registered: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 12,273 Status: Offline |
Post #5
I once had a mild burn on my retina due to HIDs I wouldn't recommend them  |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 17:19
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shutie
Senior User Location: Cunningsburgh, Shetland Registered: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 509 Status: Offline |
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fletch wrote: I once had a mild burn on my retina due to HIDs I wouldn't recommend them How the hell does that happen? never heard of that before.  |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 17:29
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dangerous dave
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bedford Registered: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 9,890 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Aren't flickering HIDs partically responsible for the rise in postal worker syndrome among the 18 to 35 age group?________________________________________ You didn't see anything. Right? |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 17:33
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cosmic spanner
Moral objector Location: North London Registered: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 10,399 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Yeah I remember reading that on BBC the other day It's like all these things, we'll find out the true health effects in the long term, but by then it may be too late  shutie, Fletch's accident happened because HIDs don't work like normal bulbs - they're more like miniature arcs. It's possible to suffer a cascade failure which isn't contained within the bulb or the headlight unit (which was never designed/strengthened for HID in the first place in these aftermarket kits) - imagine a cloud of light as blinding as staring at an arc welder bursting out the front of your car! ________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch....Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Project é - my 306 project thread. |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 17:58
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cress87
Seasoned Pro Location: Norwich Registered: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 11,360 Status: Offline |
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I've heard HID lights can give you aids too.  ________________________________________ You feed beefburgers to swans. I may have been speeding Mr Policeman but [a] I live for the 306 and [b] did you see that dog? omfg |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 17:56
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dangerous dave
Seasoned Pro Location: Bedford Registered: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 9,890 Status: Offline |
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cress87 wrote: I've heard HID lights can give you aids too. Indeed, bad AIDS at that too ________________________________________ You didn't see anything. Right? |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 18:26
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #11
If it's a cheap kit there's probably a poor crimp or split in one of the HT lines to the bulb.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 18:33
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shutie
Senior User Location: Cunningsburgh, Shetland Registered: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 509 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Aids.. right boys thats enough!  wasnt too cheap 100 odd quid? good quality  |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 19:26
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si_man306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Hertford Registered: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 3,089 Status: Offline |
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________________________________________ "Rules are for the interpretation of wisemen and the obedience of fools" (Colin Chapman, Lotus founder) |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 21:14
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marc l
Regular  Location: London [SE] Registered: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 398 Status: Offline |
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Alot of cheap kits around.I was looking on the light manufacture Ring's website the other day and their HID kits were ________________________________________ 2001 BLACK Phase 3 XS - Sold April 20101999 WHITE Phase 3 GTi6  1991 Peugeot 205 1.6 GTi - Track Car |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 21:45
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dangerous dave
Seasoned Pro Location: Bedford Registered: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 9,890 Status: Offline |
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Definition wrote: postal worker syndrome Forensic psychiatry A popular term for a condition allegedly more common in postal workers, who are said to 'snap' and shoot their colleagues in a bloody rampage ________________________________________ You didn't see anything. Right? |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 21:51
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dangerous dave
Seasoned Pro Location: Bedford Registered: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 9,890 Status: Offline |
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It's basically when someone snaps and just loses it completely. Happened a lot with postal workers who were sorting mail. The job was so tedious that they just went mad, roaming from room to room with pump acton rifles filled with armour piercing ammo.Faulty HIDs can have the same effect. ________________________________________ You didn't see anything. Right? |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 21:53
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marc l
Regular Location: London [SE] Registered: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 398 Status: Offline |
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 Didn't think it meant that ________________________________________ 2001 BLACK Phase 3 XS - Sold April 20101999 WHITE Phase 3 GTi6 1991 Peugeot 205 1.6 GTi - Track Car |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 21:55
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dangerous dave
Seasoned Pro Location: Bedford Registered: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 9,890 Status: Offline |
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Everydays a school day.PWS can aso manifest itself when driving exessively so that someone affected bythe condition can use theior car as a weapon, often resulting in pain and death for all involved. Pretty scary to be honest. I'd still to P3 crystals to be safe ________________________________________ You didn't see anything. Right? |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 21:57
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cosmic spanner
Moral objector Location: North London Registered: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 10,399 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Aye the article on BBC I read was some study from Cardiff NHS Trust. They found that blue arc lighting (particularly new style office lighting and HIDs in cars which have only really appeared in the last 5-10 years) shows signs of causing psychological damage - one manifestation of which can be "psychotic episodes" i.e. in its more extreme forms, Postal Worker Syndrome They say it's down to the blueish shade of the light, has some weird effect on the optical cortex and causes everything to look more melancholy than it should be. Apparently long term the brain just can't cope with it. Said it before, I'll say it again - HIDs are a time bomb, really.. ________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch....Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Project é - my 306 project thread. |
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Posted 2nd Dec 2008 at 22:22
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shutie
Senior User Location: Cunningsburgh, Shetland Registered: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 509 Status: Offline |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2008 at 16:03
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monty_rm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Everywhere! Registered: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 1,338 Status: Offline |
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cress87 wrote: I've heard HID lights can give you aids too. And if you touch the bulb you turn gay... ________________________________________ BMW 330Ci M-Sport Chuck Norris' dick is so big it has its own dick, and even it's dick is bigger than yours. Team  |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2008 at 17:07
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dangerous dave
Seasoned Pro Location: Bedford Registered: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 9,890 Status: Offline |
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shutie wrote: si_man306 wrote: ________________________________________ You didn't see anything. Right? |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2008 at 18:16
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tom tom go
Tom Tom GONE!!  Location: Doncaster Registered: 29 May 2008 Posts: 1,926 Status: Offline |
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Im sorry but this sounds like a right load of bo***cks, im bored at my job as its tedious so im going to pump everyone full of lead  many many many people do boring tedious jobs that they hate but they dont go round shooting people ! And they also believe that HID's may cause this aswell ?!?!?!  sorry but im not buying that shite. Nearly all car manufacturers now produce cars with HID's as standard, if there was even a whiff that side effects such as this could occurr then they wouldn't even bother fitting them due to possible future implications surely ? ________________________________________ Cherry RALLYE |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2008 at 18:52
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dangerous dave
Seasoned Pro Location: Bedford Registered: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 9,890 Status: Offline |
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tom tom go wrote: Im sorry but this sounds like a right load of bo***cks, im bored at my job as its tedious so im going to pump everyone full of lead many many many people do boring tedious jobs that they hate but they dont go round shooting people !Most of them to be honest, but some people do snap Going Postal i the slang term Old wiki entry, doesn't mention other causes other than tedium ________________________________________ You didn't see anything. Right? |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2008 at 19:30
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cosmic spanner
Moral objector Location: North London Registered: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 10,399 Status: Offline |
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tom tom go wrote: Nearly all car manufacturers now produce cars with HID's as standard, if there was even a whiff that side effects such as this could occurr then they wouldn't even bother fitting them due to possible future implications surely ? You have to look at who's behind HID technology. Bosch and Osram are two of the biggest. How much money do you think they make from regular halogen bulbs? pennies per car (at manufacturer's rates). How much do you think they get supplying all the ballasts, lamp units and all that for HID. Much better. And look it's all bright and blue and everyone wants to look cool, so manufacturers are only too happy to fit them and charge a bit more too Most importantly both Bosch and Osram are in balls-deep with the EU and the US FDA - they have to be, as they have those lucrative medical contracts.... So you can bet your arse 1) they'll be like teflon if HID turns out to be the next Asbestos. and 2) they'll probably sell the anti-psychotic drugs needed to treat people that they've made ill!  It's big business mate, it's all vested interests.. ________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch....Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Project é - my 306 project thread. |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2008 at 19:36
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