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My Rallye was built on thursday 7th January 1999 according to the cosmic code generator.My Cyclone refurb
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Author | Subject: Oil Catcher Tank |
![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Turriff Registered: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 3,826 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Hi all I've just fitted my oil catcher tank and I just want to know that I have fitted correctly. I am right in thinking that its reason for its being is to remove oil from the breather circut. ie. Not feeding oil into the air intake. ![]() ________________________________________ My Rallye was built on thursday 7th January 1999 according to the cosmic code generator.My Cyclone refurb |
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![]() Regular ![]() Location: Crowland Registered: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 305 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Looks OK to me, thats how I am going to do it.Did you get the tank from ebay for £30 or so? ________________________________________ 205 GTI6 S |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Turriff Registered: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 3,826 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Na I bought it of Puglover off here. For £15 ![]() ________________________________________ My Rallye was built on thursday 7th January 1999 according to the cosmic code generator.My Cyclone refurb |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Leeds, Morley Registered: 30 Mar 2004 Posts: 9,570 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Your filter on your ICV is a breather, not a filter, I'd suggest changing it for a filter ![]() ________________________________________ Team 375 BHP Duratec™ |
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![]() Senior User ![]() Location: eating spuds Registered: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 549 Status: Offline |
Post #5
you might want a little more drop on the block to tank, as all the oil and shit will probably just collect around where, wherew the blue 90deg joint it |
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![]() ![]() Location: Far out there Registered: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 6,095 Status: Offline |
Post #6
thats how i had it mate. ![]() |
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![]() ![]() Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,797 Status: Offline |
Post #7
lower down imo or your path is uphill first ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Turriff Registered: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 3,826 Status: Offline |
Post #8
rikky wrote: lower down imo or your path is uphill first Ok will try to lower over the weekend. Also I am aware the little filter is a breather type and not a filter, I tried to get one today but my local Motor factors didn't have any. But I will get one soon. ________________________________________ My Rallye was built on thursday 7th January 1999 according to the cosmic code generator.My Cyclone refurb |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Leeds, Morley Registered: 30 Mar 2004 Posts: 9,570 Status: Offline |
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![]() Regular ![]() Location: Fife Registered: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 184 Status: Offline |
Post #10
personally! i wouldn't put the pipe back into the inlet, instead use that piper-x breather. Heres how i did it.![]() ________________________________________ My Diablo 206 GTI-6Track Video @ Rockingham |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Leeds, Morley Registered: 30 Mar 2004 Posts: 9,570 Status: Offline |
Post #11
I just run some hose to the floor.________________________________________ Team 375 BHP Duratec™ |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #12
You haven't actually acheived anything there tabbster. The whole point of a catch tank is to vent the crankcase presure to atmosphere whilst collecting the oil vapour in the tank. The original set-up feeds the crankcase pressure into the inlet, exactly the same as you have done there. On full throttle the vacuum from the inlet manifold will suck the vapour through the tank so quickly it won't do anything. Get rid of the hose from the tank to the inlet, and replace it with a filter like the one you have on your icv. ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Turriff Registered: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 3,826 Status: Offline |
Post #13
pete_rallye wrote: You haven't actually acheived anything there tabbster. The whole point of a catch tank is to vent the crankcase presure to atmosphere whilst collecting the oil vapour in the tank. The original set-up feeds the crankcase pressure into the inlet, exactly the same as you have done there. On full throttle the vacuum from the inlet manifold will suck the vapour through the tank so quickly it won't do anything. Get rid of the hose from the tank to the inlet, and replace it with a filter like the one you have on your icv. And plug up the inlet manifold feed? ________________________________________ My Rallye was built on thursday 7th January 1999 according to the cosmic code generator.My Cyclone refurb |
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![]() Senior User ![]() Location: Oxfordshire Registered: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 639 Status: Offline |
Post #14
The hose for the airfilter, are they 2 45deg ?________________________________________ Monkey see monkey do |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Turriff Registered: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 3,826 Status: Offline |
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ted wrote: The hose for the airfilter, are they 2 45deg ? ![]() ________________________________________ My Rallye was built on thursday 7th January 1999 according to the cosmic code generator.My Cyclone refurb |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Solihull & Market Harborough Registered: 09 May 2006 Posts: 12,046 Status: Offline |
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pete_rallye wrote: You haven't actually acheived anything there tabbster. The whole point of a catch tank is to vent the crankcase presure to atmosphere whilst collecting the oil vapour in the tank. The original set-up feeds the crankcase pressure into the inlet, exactly the same as you have done there. On full throttle the vacuum from the inlet manifold will suck the vapour through the tank so quickly it won't do anything. Get rid of the hose from the tank to the inlet, and replace it with a filter like the one you have on your icv. Not quite, the standard system is designed to eliminate any breather emissions while maintaining a negative crankcase pressure. A catch tank will do the same thing while "catching" the oil vapour and giving a cleaner intake charge. At full throttle there is virtually no vacuum at all in the inlet manifold, manifold depression is almost the same as baro. ________________________________________ Cress87 wrote: This place is getting beyond a joke. There's been an enormous influx of bellends signing up recently Team 205 1.9 GTi ™ Team: Hmm™ |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Broadstairs Registered: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 1,150 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Out of interest (and lazyness ![]() ________________________________________ Now rollin' in a 182FF |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Turriff Registered: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 3,826 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Just measured the piping I've bought for the job and its 14mm ID and 20mm OD Reinforced coolant hose.________________________________________ My Rallye was built on thursday 7th January 1999 according to the cosmic code generator.My Cyclone refurb |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Number Wang Registered: 18 May 2006 Posts: 3,268 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Should an oil catcher be attached to the black round one way valve type thing in the following photo?![]() Anyone~? ![]() |
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![]() Senior User ![]() Location: W.London Registered: 05 Oct 2008 Posts: 675 Status: Offline |
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![]() Senior User ![]() Location: W.London Registered: 05 Oct 2008 Posts: 675 Status: Offline |
Post #21
last photo shows the catch tank is doing what its meant to! need to really empty it out, thats about 8 months worth i think________________________________________ Nile Blue GTi6Alpine White 205 GTi 1.9 - Project Air Con Pipes Thread....... Machine Polishing - Paint Correction - Swirl Removal in West London - PM for details |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Number Wang Registered: 18 May 2006 Posts: 3,268 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Many thanks for the photos ... I have seen the inside of inlet manifolds and they get so gunked up. I should have mine fitted by the weekend. I think I will add mine after the one way valve. |
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![]() Regular ![]() Location: Godollo Registered: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 247 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Sorry everyone for reviving such an oldie.On an S16 what pipes do you connect to the oil catch tank? I guess one that connects to just in front of the throttle body and the other that comes from the head? Am I wrong? Thanks! ________________________________________ XSi 8V -> S16 |
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![]() ![]() Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,797 Status: Offline |
Post #24
i have got the pipe that runs from the bottom of the block near the filter to one side of the tank. the other upper middle one (underneath the head>cam cover breather) goes to the other side of the tank. it is a breathable mocal tank so the cap is the vent. i run a gti6 inlet setup so it doesn't feed anything back to the inlet but still catches the vapour. i have a valve to redrain it all back to the sump tooleave head>cam cover as is, you'll have to work out a way of filling it with oil though - funnel down dipstick, or get a threaded cap welded into the cam cover so it is fillable there ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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![]() Regular ![]() Location: Godollo Registered: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 247 Status: Offline |
Post #25
rikky wrote: i have got the pipe that runs from the bottom of the block near the filter to one side of the tank. the other upper middle one (underneath the head>cam cover breather) goes to the other side of the tank. it is a breathable mocal tank so the cap is the vent. i run a gti6 inlet setup so it doesn't feed anything back to the inlet but still catches the vapour. i have a valve to redrain it all back to the sump too leave head>cam cover as is, you'll have to work out a way of filling it with oil though - funnel down dipstick, or get a threaded cap welded into the cam cover so it is fillable there Thanks Rikky - no other option? Does sound a bit frightening at first read... Would it be enough to disconnect the pipe leading to the intake hose and connect that to the catch tank? ________________________________________ XSi 8V -> S16 |
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