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lmaoonly 1 squeeled.
i will be joining club squeek again soon once i get this bloody beam and bumper sorted.
lemmy know how you get on adam.
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 lotek
Seasoned Pro  Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
only 1 squeeled. i will be joining club squeek again soon once i get this bloody beam and bumper sorted. lemmy know how you get on adam. |
 Posted 12th Dec 2009 at 20:51
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Was that the one with the copper grease on it - I did find that amusing, only one having loads of grease on it  The slider kit is ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 12th Dec 2009 at 23:01
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #28
do the pads hang over the outside of the discs on these brembos when used with a 283mm C5 disc?edit, was looking at wrong discs, I guess its the 28mm disc that's used so only 3.5mm less pad sweep radius. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 12th Dec 2009 at 23:48
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Well f*ck me. I seem to have a couple of stuck pigs on the front of the car. Quite an incredible amount of noise Plus side - although you can feel the extra track and weight it is shit loads quicker without the brake binding and they work very well indeed. So far everything is greased with mintex brake grease using standard chamfered pads and standard discs. Next up i'm going to try some multiple grooved discs (Tarox G88) when I get the money sorted out. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 15th Dec 2009 at 01:56
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scib4
Senior User  Location: East Kilbride Registered: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 770 Status: Offline |
Post #30
I used Mintex Ceratec on my Carbotech Xp8's which worked a treat.....plus its only ________________________________________ Mike08 BMW 320d M-Sport touring (Superchipped Spec) 11 VW Transporter Kombi T5.1GP LWB (Bi-Turbo spec) Yeti DJ (Jump spec) Specialized SX Trail (DH spec) Specialized Pitch (XC spec) |
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Posted 15th Dec 2009 at 02:20
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,991 Status: Offline |
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adam b wrote: Well f*ck me. I seem to have a couple of stuck pigs on the front of the car. Quite an incredible amount of noise Plus side - although you can feel the extra track and weight it is shit loads quicker without the brake binding and they work very well indeed. So far everything is greased with mintex brake grease using standard chamfered pads and standard discs. Next up i'm going to try some multiple grooved discs (Tarox G88) when I get the money sorted out. Will be interesting to see how you get on, perhaps investing in some ear plugs would be better ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 15th Dec 2009 at 02:34
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro  Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #32
I don't know how you live with the squeel, a customer of mine had a set and the noise is unreal.Makes you a better driver as you don't want to press the brakes! Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 15th Dec 2009 at 03:14
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #33
that's two people I know with Brembos, both squeal loud enough that I can hear it in my car when they're a fair way in front!  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 15th Dec 2009 at 04:22
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #34
mechanical_repairs wrote: I don't know how you live with the squeel, a customer of mine had a set and the noise is unreal. Makes you a better driver as you don't want to press the brakes! Carl Yes it is quite incredible. I found you can brake to about 30% with no noise, just after that it gets louder and louder awfully quickly. I think i've already got that Mintex stuff on everything - can you remember what it was Meirion? ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 15th Dec 2009 at 12:49
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,991 Status: Offline |
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adam b wrote: mechanical_repairs wrote: I don't know how you live with the squeel, a customer of mine had a set and the noise is unreal. Makes you a better driver as you don't want to press the brakes! Carl Yes it is quite incredible. I found you can brake to about 30% with no noise, just after that it gets louder and louder awfully quickly. I think i've already got that Mintex stuff on everything - can you remember what it was Meirion? Sounds like my AP's  Just doesnt like very light braking, slam the anchors on and you wont get a peep out of them  ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 15th Dec 2009 at 14:07
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #36
hmm, I can't remember if it was the Ceratech stuff or just normal Mintex non-copper based brake grease, remainder of the packet is still in the unit I think, or might be in my toolbox!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 15th Dec 2009 at 15:09
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cosmic spanner
Moral objector  Location: North London Registered: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 10,399 Status: Offline |
Post #37
 crikey this thread is a blast from the past!adam b wrote: Yes it is quite incredible. I found you can brake to about 30% with no noise, just after that it gets louder and louder awfully quickly. ISTR mine only squealed on light pedal applications.. if you braked firmly then they were fine. Unfortunately the effect that has on your driving is you want to leave braking til late and brake hard.. which isn't a very good idea! ________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch....Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Project é - my 306 project thread. |
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Posted 15th Dec 2009 at 15:43
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,991 Status: Offline |
Post #38
cosmic spanner wrote: crikey this thread is a blast from the past!adam b wrote: Yes it is quite incredible. I found you can brake to about 30% with no noise, just after that it gets louder and louder awfully quickly. ISTR mine only squealed on light pedal applications.. if you braked firmly then they were fine. Unfortunately the effect that has on your driving is you want to leave braking til late and brake hard.. which isn't a very good idea! Exactly like mine  Oddly it's fine for the first few minutes while all parts are very cold  Any idea on why this may be?________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 15th Dec 2009 at 15:56
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ash
Six Addict  Location: Chelmsford Registered: 25 Mar 2003 Posts: 7,520 Status: Offline |
Post #39
I could get some alloy bells made to take 288mm Rotors, but the bells will be about |
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Posted 15th Dec 2009 at 15:57
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #40
bells would be a good idea, as you could address some clearance issues by moving the caliper and bell inwards a bit away from the wheel (i.e taller offset)________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 15th Dec 2009 at 16:38
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,991 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: bells would be a good idea, as you could address some clearance issues by moving the caliper and bell inwards a bit away from the wheel (i.e taller offset) Wouldnt the caliper position be fixed as it is lug mounted? I guess you could space it out a bit and use some longer bolts  It all adds to the cost though i guess, if your looking to spend 400 on some bells and discs plus around 150 on the calipers and then 50ish on various other bits then you might be better off looking at the Renault calipers and the kit Ash does for them ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 15th Dec 2009 at 17:10
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #42
yup, exactly what I meant.depends how cheaply you can get the calipers, Renault ones aren't that common yet, I can;t see why the rest of the kit would cost any more. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 15th Dec 2009 at 17:14
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thugpuggin
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 26,784 Status: Offline |
Post #43
cosmic spanner wrote: ISTR mine only squealed on light pedal applications.. if you braked firmly then they were fine. Unfortunately the effect that has on your driving is you want to leave braking til late and brake hard.. which isn't a very good idea! I remember them sqealing on a certain stretch of Sussex road in 2007. That looked like pretty hard breaking too.  ________________________________________ Black X Reg PIII.VGTi 6 A4212 pt 1 A4212 pt 2 Searching the streets of Bristol for 1.36p/day.Joint Kent Leader |
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Posted 15th Dec 2009 at 17:17
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cosmic spanner
Moral objector Location: North London Registered: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 10,399 Status: Offline |
Post #44
thugpuggin wrote: cosmic spanner wrote: ISTR mine only squealed on light pedal applications.. if you braked firmly then they were fine. Unfortunately the effect that has on your driving is you want to leave braking til late and brake hard.. which isn't a very good idea! I remember them sqealing on a certain stretch of Sussex road in 2007. That looked like pretty hard breaking too. That noise wasn't the brakes, it was the tyres. And the airbags.  ________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch....Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Project é - my 306 project thread. |
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Posted 15th Dec 2009 at 19:05
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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rallyestyle wrote: welshpug! wrote: bells would be a good idea, as you could address some clearance issues by moving the caliper and bell inwards a bit away from the wheel (i.e taller offset) Wouldnt the caliper position be fixed as it is lug mounted? I guess you could space it out a bit and use some longer bolts It all adds to the cost though i guess, if your looking to spend 400 on some bells and discs plus around 150 on the calipers and then 50ish on various other bits then you might be better off looking at the Renault calipers and the kit Ash does for them But that doesn't fit under 15" wheels though iirc. Wonder if the massive number of grooves on the Tarox discs make all the difference. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 16th Dec 2009 at 17:11
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,991 Status: Offline |
Post #46
adam b wrote: rallyestyle wrote: welshpug! wrote: bells would be a good idea, as you could address some clearance issues by moving the caliper and bell inwards a bit away from the wheel (i.e taller offset) Wouldnt the caliper position be fixed as it is lug mounted? I guess you could space it out a bit and use some longer bolts It all adds to the cost though i guess, if your looking to spend 400 on some bells and discs plus around 150 on the calipers and then 50ish on various other bits then you might be better off looking at the Renault calipers and the kit Ash does for them But that doesn't fit under 15" wheels though iirc. Wonder if the massive number of grooves on the Tarox discs make all the difference. I doubt it no as 310mm is probably a tad big, i have been proved wrong before though The grooves will make a difference yes but not a huge one i wouldnt have thought ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 16th Dec 2009 at 17:55
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #47
well pads and discs are the only variable between adam's car and DanS16's car!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Dec 2009 at 17:57
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,991 Status: Offline |
Post #48
welshpug! wrote: well pads and discs are the only variable between adam's car and DanS16's car! Does he get no squeal whatsoever then? What pads does he run? ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 16th Dec 2009 at 17:59
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #49
apparently not, you'd have to ask Dan I dont know what pads but I think its the Tarox G88 grooved discs, Adam said you ger a whirring noise when you brake instead of a squeal ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Dec 2009 at 18:02
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #50
He uses DS2500 pads and the Tarox G88 discs. No squeal at all when I tried them.Will hopefully get to hammer mine later on this evening and see if they still squeal when hot.  ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 16th Dec 2009 at 18:07
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