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matty_rallye

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Post #51
Unsure tbh as i havent seen it for myself, i think he was hoping to eliminate the play at the piston pin end with shims but not as much as planned.

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Posted 13th Jul 2008 at 21:07
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Post #52
Ive just built and had mapped a very similar engine in my 205. Im stuck at 230BHP (I was expecting 250-260) and I think it maybe the std exhaust manifold holding it back. Just wondered what exhaust manifold you were thinking of using???

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Posted 21st Jul 2008 at 00:22
matty_rallye

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Post #53
Still using the standard manifold aswell. But with 45mm tb's, hydraulic lifters im not going to expect too much more than 230 bhp. 200lb ft would be nice tho!

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Posted 21st Jul 2008 at 01:10
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Post #54
Forged steel rods turned up today. Got them delivered straight to Sandy so havent seen them for myself but he reckons they look spot on!

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Posted 22nd Jul 2008 at 03:34
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Post #55
cool, sounds like Sandy's a busy man LOL

what spec did you get in the end?

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Posted 22nd Jul 2008 at 03:38
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Post #56
welshpug! wrote:
cool, sounds like Sandy's a busy man LOL

what spec did you get in the end?


Yep he usually is!

Do you mean spec of rods? If so the ones discussed in the other rod thread that is going on at the moment with a 22mm pin. They initially misinformed me that they were 20mm, i questioned it and they re-checked to find them to be 22mm all along.

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Posted 22nd Jul 2008 at 03:43
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Post #57
matty_rallye wrote:
Forged steel rods turned up today. Got them delivered straight to Sandy so havent seen them for myself but he reckons they look spot on!


Which rods have you gone for?

Edit - Just read the above post. Excellent news. I'll be going for a set of them then! Big grin

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Posted 22nd Jul 2008 at 03:44
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Posted 13th Sep 2008 at 02:04
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Have had a few more delays which now are hopefully all sorted. Main problem has been eliminating the float on the big end as the 92mm XU crank has 26mm width i believe where as the vast majority of XU conrods have a width on the big end of 24 mm. So having forked out on the forged rods of 24 mm width we opted to go for the 88mm steel crank which will make things more straight forward as the width is 24mm!

Have lost a small amount of cc from this though (2093 cc rather than 2188cc) however it seems the best way to get things back on the road more quickly and without spending too much more!

Anyway the block is now built and the head is being finished off at the moment so hopefully engine will be going back in this coming week if all goes to plan, finger crossed!

A few piccys of things built up.









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Posted 13th Sep 2008 at 02:05
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Post #60
Cool.

Get that block painted though! LOL

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Posted 13th Sep 2008 at 14:44
matty_rallye

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Post #61
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Cool.

Get that block painted though! LOL


Lol, na apparently the flash has made it look much worse than it is, going to get dirty anyway!

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Posted 13th Sep 2008 at 15:12
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Post #62
just read about your project,sounds like it going to be an awsome car once all completed. so how much has it cost upto now for the work been done?
Posted 15th Sep 2008 at 01:32
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Post #63
finally got round to reading this, looks a great project, cant wait to see the results

concerned with the premature wear on the catcams though, how long were they run for and are they made from quality billet steel?

i have a set of pt81s to fit and i think its more likely my followers will wear first before the cams do

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Posted 15th Sep 2008 at 01:44
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mike rallye wrote:
just read about your project,sounds like it going to be an awsome car once all completed. so how much has it cost upto now for the work been done?


Hmm, unsure to be honest, had it 1st build with the itb's, cams and management etc march 07 and that must have cost just over 2.5k. Now with the bottom end build, another set of cams and a change of management to DTA its easily another 2-2.5k i expect.

The cams from catcams are i believe chilled cast iron build, the followers had worn out aswell!

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Posted 15th Sep 2008 at 01:50
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Post #65
Small update!

Car would have been mapped and finished on friday but unfortunatly things havent gone to plan.

Spoke to Sandy friday morning, all was well. A few adjustments were being made and then in the afternoon if all went well the car was going to be driven to the rolling road. On the way to the rollers unfortunatly the car lost compression on cylinder number two. Got a phone call from Sandy explaining what had happened and that the head would have to be removed to see what had gone wrong. Upon removal of the head he found that one of the valve springs (bought at quite a cost from Catcams ) had snapped. The springs had only been bought from Catcams only 18 months ago, had only had about 9 months use and covered approx 5k miles!

In fairness this came as a bit of a relief as things could have been worse and Sandy was worried something that he had done may have gone wrong. I never really thought this could be the case as he never puts a foot wrong! He was also releived if a little dissapointed at the quality of the springs that had been supplied.

Now have a set of double springs being made / supplied by John Reed which should take a week to ten days to come. Maybe in 3 weeks it'll be there!!

So close!!

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Posted 10th Nov 2008 at 00:48
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Post #66
Good and bad news then Smile

Can Cat Cams be held responsible for anything? I would be proper cheesed off with one failing after only 5k miles Yes

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Posted 14th Nov 2008 at 14:42
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Post #67
Results!!!

Rolling roaded today. Peaked at 226 bhp at the fly. And a good spread of torque that is about 176 lb ft at its peak. See graph!



Im pleased with the results and apparently it drives really well.

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Posted 29th Nov 2008 at 00:08
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Sweet!! i always wanted to work the bottom end on mine

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Posted 29th Nov 2008 at 00:13
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Post #69
the torque and power figures seem a bit low for a 2.2 engine
Posted 29th Nov 2008 at 00:46
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Post #70
Read through, we ended up using a 88mm crank so lost 4mm stroke than we had planned. Now 2.1.

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Posted 29th Nov 2008 at 01:50
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alright then i stand corrected.
Posted 29th Nov 2008 at 02:55
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Post #72
still impressive figures, what engine is that crank out of?? is it a steel forged number??
Posted 29th Nov 2008 at 02:58
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believe its a steel crank from a 1.9 td engine.

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Posted 29th Nov 2008 at 03:01
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Post #74
nice one dude Smile

whens the first track day in it??

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Posted 29th Nov 2008 at 12:46
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226bhp from cams, throttle bodies and a 2.1 bottom end, sounds a very healthy gain there mate Yes do you find that it is still willing to rev as freely?

mines at 214bhp at the moment with pt81 cams and a btcc inlet and the difference in responsiveness is staggering at the higher rev ranges, never imagined it would ever be this good the driveability low down is no different either


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