Hi all

I am new to the forum, although used to be an avid pug forum go’er helping pug owners a long time ago on another pug forum (can’t remember the name of the forum, it was only pugs, very blue and possibly the only one back then). I'm going to pause there and apologies for my first post asking for help, and a lot of it; however beyond the below I'm hoping to be good

I have had 5x 306’s in the past (all XS models), but after 15 years without, I have just bought my first GTi 6, and also my first Phase 3. It’s the same colour as my very first 306 which is what I wanted. I expect it’ll cost me a fortune and I’m prepared to do a full respray at a point, alongside other major work, as it’s a car to keep. I know phase 1 like the back of my hand (although a little out of touch on parts suppliers), but could really do with some help to keep me honest on things I’m getting a little mixed up on. I would love to replace everything missing/broken with OEM but assume Peugeot discontinued the few parts I need, and finding OEM used isn’t looking very easy (I want to restore this car in weeks, not years



Any help with the following would be greatly appreciated.

1. I need a GTi 6 steering wheel in great condition. A P3 one sold on ebay last month for £30 but there aren’t any others right now. Happy to pay more than that is anyone has one. Otherwise did any other models use the same leather wheel or close? Also, would a 307 or 3008 fit as an interim? whilst I find a P3 leather wheel.

2. The Phase 3 apparently has clear fogs. Assuming I can’t buy OEM of these, is there a next best brand you would choose if not?

3. The car will bump start but not turn over, so assuming the starter motor needs changing. Again, what would be the closest option to OEM for a new starter motor, assuming OEM can’t be bought any more?

4. The alcantara is shot to pieces on the front seats. Is there a top 1 or 2 specialists people here would suggest I get in touch with about retrimming the 306 seats, and what would you expect to pay for replacing the centres per seat?

5. The car has only come with non remote control key, so I want to get the correct keys and central locking back up and working. If I bought new ones can I self programme or should I just take it in to Peugeot? Also, If the central locking key didn’t come with the car, and it’s been used with a manual key in the lock, does this mean that someone has deactivated the immobiliser on the ECU? I saw a video posted last week where someone broke some pins on the ECU to prevent the immobiliser working, so I’m worried that might have been done with this car, unless there is another less intrusive way it might have been turned off.

7. Can anyone confirm the model of radio (Cassette or CD) that would have come in a P3? I’ve seen a couple of photos that suggest it might not be a 306 shaped headunit, but a normal letterbox headunit with the filling surround, so I’m just after the model(s) so I can source one. It appears a 2000 model 306 might have come with cassette as standard but all GTi6 possibly came with CD?

8. Does anyone make repros of the security window stickers at all? Otherwise if anyone fancies sending me a clear photo and sizes of them, I will artwork them, and get them printed to original spec. I could then make them available to other forum members if of interest to anyone.

Sorry, I know that’s a long list, but any help on any of those current challenges would be greatly appreciated. I am after OEM parts where possible, or next best. I will post photos of the car on Wednesday, all its updates as I go, and help others in return

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Owned:
4x Peugeot 306 XS Phase 1
1x Peugeot 306 XS Phase 2
1x Peugeot 106 Quicksilver (Mistake Purchase)
1x Peugeot 306 GTi 6 Phase 2.5 (Current Car)

Hi Tom.

Thank you for your response and help; some really useful pointers.

Something in my head makes me think I should put in a new starter, so I'm in no rush to do it al over again. I'm already not sure just how far my skills will stretch on getting the inlet manifold out in order to replace it. Might need that facia, although can't quite tell, but I need it to be absolutely MINT as I've got major PugOCD on even the slightly ding/scratches

Thanks again, and if anyone else has any thoughts, please do chip in. Thanks again to anyone reading.

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Owned:
4x Peugeot 306 XS Phase 1
1x Peugeot 306 XS Phase 2
1x Peugeot 106 Quicksilver (Mistake Purchase)
1x Peugeot 306 GTi 6 Phase 2.5 (Current Car)

I don't think the phase 3 radio/CD uses the fascia trim

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S Reg Diablo standardsSpec SORNED
R Reg Nile standard spec written off then repaired
X Reg Astor in need of TLC
R Reg Nile to restore
Set of Lions to fit.

Hi all

Thanks for the help so far. So I had my first weekend with the car and here are the jobs I got done:

- Removed the Manifold, to replace the Starter with and OEM Valeo Starter, plus new intake gasket.
- Reinstated an OEM Clarion CD player with the correct door speak grills
- Reinstated an OEM Leather steering wheel (although missing the connectors for the airbag, so didn't put airbag back in)
- Removed the Black window tints
- Hoovering half a field and enough dog hair to create an entire dog, then new premium floor mats

Below are some before and after photos:

Below BEFORE (having just received the car as a non runner):






Below AFTER weekend number 1 (Got loads more parts to fit):





NEXT:
- Fitting new OEM clear glass Fogs
- Sorting out headlights (either polish up or replace)
- New OEM side repeaters
- Fitting new rear spoiler as this one is melted (yes melted)
- Trying to source some new front seats as I've been quoted £1000 minimum to reupholster
- Returning the car to the correct registration plate
- Paint correction and some spraying
- New Bosch front and rear wipers
- OEM Air Filter
- New exhaust

QUESTIONS:
If anyone can help on any of the below, I would really appreciate it...

1. The car shows on .GOV MOT website as a December 2000 which has been imported at some point, and the car's V5C shows first registered in Feb 2001, so expect it was imported from Ireland. I therefore believe it to be a W-reg phase 3. It does however have non colour coded side strips. Is there anything that would make you think it is not a December 2000 car and could be earlier?

2. Is it weird not to have a sunroof? I read somewhere that a sunroof was no more cost on a GTi so they all had them. There is something about this car that I'm worried or unsure about it's history - possibly because it showing 4 months from 1st delivery to being imported to the UK, although I guess it could have been that the owner move fro ROI to the UK. At first I thought it was a demo car, but demo cars have full specs, so surely would have had a sunroof.

3. The in mirror tweeters are clearly aftermarket Alpine that I want to remove, but is there anyway of knowing if it would have come with factory tweeters in there originally, as I know there is an OEM mirror cover with holes for a tweeter? Well I assume that was a factory option.

4. Other than the list of changes I'm making, can you see anything that is incorrect for that phase 3 model that I might need to add to my list to correct?

5. Since unplugging the battery, every time I open or close the door, the lights flash for 15 seconds. It no longer has a programmed key so its a manual turn in the lock job, but could it be an issue with the alarm or immobiliser doing this? Any other ideas or how I can stop it from happening?

6. What is the closest option to an OEM exhaust system, as the one on it is the loudest exhaust I've ever hear, it's like a Subaru on steroids. Do I just need to go to someone like Longlife to custom make one and weld an OEM tip on it?

I really appreciate your time rereading this and any help anyone may have. Thanks again.

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Owned:
4x Peugeot 306 XS Phase 1
1x Peugeot 306 XS Phase 2
1x Peugeot 106 Quicksilver (Mistake Purchase)
1x Peugeot 306 GTi 6 Phase 2.5 (Current Car)

Nice car, that’s a phase 2.5 not phase 3. Phase 3 had colour coded side strips also the dials were different, yours has phase 2 clocks but a phase 3 facia so probably built around may 99...... there’s some other bits as well but they’re just the things that stand out in your pictures.

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I’m not sure if .gov don’t just list when it was registered, when it was actually built can be a completely different thing, it could of sat in a storage yard for 2 years before being sold....

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Thing is, the registration is relative to when it was road registered NOT when it was actually built There’s an FAQ kicking about in the FAQ section about build codes etc, il see if I can find it.
*Edit* http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=37238&page=1
Have a look at this, the build code FAQ needs fixing but this might help....

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I’ll see if I can get the FAQ fixed!

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Great, that confirms that, although surely seems far more P3 looking at the boot, front, dash. As suggest, circa May 1999 might make sense, just before the P3 got launched.

I now just need to figure out if circa May 1999 is right for date of manufacture, as the .GOV and HPI and V5C records state wither manufactured year as 2000 or Registered 31 December 2000. If anyone has any fancy way of looking up my VIN or anything else to tell me anything more about this car I have no history about, please do give me a shout. I'm beginning to wonder if the T reg on it isn't in fact a private plate like I thought, and could be a DVLA issued one when it was imported. Would love to find out anything about this car

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Owned:
4x Peugeot 306 XS Phase 1
1x Peugeot 306 XS Phase 2
1x Peugeot 106 Quicksilver (Mistake Purchase)
1x Peugeot 306 GTi 6 Phase 2.5 (Current Car)

The fuel cap is one I can’t remember having on my phase 2. It’s a very angular cap with a cross shape, and no lock. I’m going to try and go and see it tomorrow and see if I can find a date in the suspension mount as suggested. So odd if the DVLA assigned that T plate yet on the V5C they put manufactured 2000.

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Owned:
4x Peugeot 306 XS Phase 1
1x Peugeot 306 XS Phase 2
1x Peugeot 106 Quicksilver (Mistake Purchase)
1x Peugeot 306 GTi 6 Phase 2.5 (Current Car)

This is my cap from an 98 R Reg GTI 6

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Phil Goodson
405 Mi16 Phase 1 until 2002
306 Gti6 current project car
405 Mi16 LeMans current project car
505 Gti Estate current project car
Audi S4 daily

So the sticker on the back of the suspension mount reads:

0816381
020353
EXY

Does anyone know what month/year that means it is and does that give any other info about the car? Appreciate the help.

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Owned:
4x Peugeot 306 XS Phase 1
1x Peugeot 306 XS Phase 2
1x Peugeot 106 Quicksilver (Mistake Purchase)
1x Peugeot 306 GTi 6 Phase 2.5 (Current Car)

From what I've read on here years ago, the lockable caps only appeared on late phase 3's. I too have a phase 3 with non lockable cap (presumably making mine an 'earlier' phase 3

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