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alcon

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Post #251
It's amazing how thick powder coating can be and how it can affect fine tolerances.

'Brake servo measuring tool for sale' should definitely be offered in your sig!

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Posted 13th Jun 2023 at 08:46
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Post #252
Result the strip and rebuild worked well. I shall take a look at mine next time the engine is out of it, cheers

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Posted 13th Jun 2023 at 16:35
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Post #253
S8-Tom wrote:


I removed the backrest fabric from the seat and had a new section of vinyl put in and the local garage welded the tilt mechanism for £5!






Good day Tom,I know it is many years ago,since you repaired the side bolster , and if you remember from which vehicle you matched the fabric of the sides/bolster for the rallye seat?
https://i.imgur.com/eighrlol.jpg

Looking to fix back mine ,as the previous owner has replaced it in the past but it with not the same!I have read that this fabric for the sides is the same from old Golf but was not able to find suitable one!

Posted 25th Jun 2023 at 19:03
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Post #254
alcon wrote:
It's amazing how thick powder coating can be and how it can affect fine tolerances.

'Brake servo measuring tool for sale' should definitely be offered in your sig!


Big grin It'd cost more to post than it costs to make, but thanks.

marksorrento205 wrote:
Result the strip and rebuild worked well. I shall take a look at mine next time the engine is out of it, cheers


Cheers. I had my cams out so there was just enough space to wriggle the servo out.


panosbr wrote:
Looking to fix back mine ,as the previous owner has replaced it in the past but it with not the same!I have read that this fabric for the sides is the same from old Golf but was not able to find suitable one!


It was just the vinyl section I replaced and my local trimmer just happened to have an exact match for that!
The black fabric part you're looking to replace looks to be available in two types - there's a close weave and more open weave. I know this as, most of the seats in my car are the more open weave type whilst the rear bench (bottom part) is the closer weave. I replaced the bottom part of the rear bench as my original one had a cigarette burn in it.

There's a seller who does new 205 GTi seat covers. He stocks a black 'needle point(?)' fabric that looks close.

Edit: can't find a link for the fabric mentioned above but, maybe this?

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Posted 27th Jun 2023 at 10:02
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Post #255
Thanks for the comment.
Should ask for a sample of this 207/407 to review.

There is a thread were is mentioned that this side black fabric can be matched from VW Golf old models.

Maybe this also could be close :

https://tissens.com/en/automotive-yougtimers-fabrics/2403-genuine-side-fabric-for-volkswagen-golf-gti.html
Posted 27th Jun 2023 at 16:30
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Post #256
6 months+ since I updated this.

I'll be honest, 2023 was sh1t. Reading back through the last few posts, I'd had all of that nonsense with the clutch and then fannying about with the brake servo.
It all culminated in an MOT fail in August, the first time that's happened in my ownership. It was down to a bunch of stupid 'regular 306 stuff' (you can look for yourself) + a newly qulified tester (I think) who I almost ran over earlier in the year (I think). Around that time I had some serious issues to contend with with my youngest (he's actually coming out of hospital 24th Jan - 5 months!) so the car got put away.

I've dabbled in sorting a few bits but that also meant I caused more problems (brain understandably elsewhere).

Some not insignificant parts have been stockpiled and I'm feeling ready to dive back in and get the Rallye out on the road by spring, so watch this space ...

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Posted 19th Jan 2024 at 10:10
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Post #257
Tom, hope things are on the up for you and look forward to seeing updates on the motor. Always enjoy reading this thread Thumbs up

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Posted 20th Jan 2024 at 18:59
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Post #258
S8-Tom wrote:
6 months+ since I updated this.

I'll be honest, 2023 was sh1t. Reading back through the last few posts, I'd had all of that nonsense with the clutch and then fannying about with the brake servo.
It all culminated in an MOT fail in August, the first time that's happened in my ownership. It was down to a bunch of stupid 'regular 306 stuff' (you can look for yourself) + a newly qulified tester (I think) who I almost ran over earlier in the year (I Thumbs up think). Around that time I had some serious issues to contend with with my youngest (he's actually coming out of hospital 24th Jan - 5 months!) so the car got put away.

I've dabbled in sorting a few bits but that also meant I caused more problems (brain understandably elsewhere).

Some not insignificant parts have been stockpiled and I'm feeling ready to dive back in and get the Rallye out on the road by spring, so watch this space ...



Hope everything changes for the Better Tom & your Lad get sorted x
Posted 21st Jan 2024 at 05:11
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Post #259
Sorry to hear mate, I did wonder where you disappeared to. Hope the oy is doing well now. Look after yourself and him.

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Posted 21st Jan 2024 at 17:27
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Post #260
Thanks for the support all. Many more battles ahead but he's doing well right now.

So, the "not insignificant parts"!

Part of the MOT failure was due to 'Driver's airbag obviously inoperative' and 'Stop lamp(s) all not working'.

The connectors under the seat no longer responded to being wiggled or pushed together harder so I needed a permanent solution to that and I knew the brake light switch was iffy.

I've been through the initiation right of fiddling with the brake light switch insitu (numerous times) and I've got the scras to prove it so, with the airbag wiring needing attention (some under the carpet) and the brake ligh switch I decided that taking the dash, front carpet and seats out was the way to go as it'd make things easier Yes

I'm sure you've all been at the "while I'm in there" moment and lived to regret it later.

"Why don't I get that spare dash flocked Hmm " and "I could remove all of the unused wiring from behind the dash Hmm "

The dash is great. I decided to have a flocked dash as I'm not particularly tall and the reflection in the windscreen of the original vinyl dash wasn't much fun especially when 'pushing-on' a bit.

Flocking was done by NAD's Automotive Developments in Littlehampton. Ash spent an age masking it up and it really shows, even the back has nice clean lines where the flock finishes.





The plastic that still shows isn't as abvious in person, it's just that the flock is sooo black it makes the plastic stand out in the pics.


As for removing the unused wiring Doh



Thank f**k I labelled everything and logged where every pin and wire was removed from. I had to backpeddle nore than once and refit stuff until everything worked again. About 750g of wiring and excess stuff has been removed and it really wasn't worth it so just don't, OK!

As I've been bustin' my balls at work and been through a ton of crap at home I thought I'd treat myself to something nice.





Sppedline SL2108 from Retro Race & Rally. Ian's local and the price was about as good as I could find.

I fancied a change and I can never get the cyclones balanced properly anywhere locally despite there being a few places with the right adaptor.

To go with the wheels some new Michelin Pilot Sport 3's



Aaaand finally, an Emerald K6+ with Pug1Off patch lead.



This probably won't be installed until the winter, when other things might happen, but I want to get the car running with it, on just a simple start map, so I can use the knowledge I've gained from the dash loom saga to work out which pin from the ecu goes to where so that I can make my own wiring loom.


I'm hoping by the end of April the car will be back together, M.O.T'd and out on the road.


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Posted 21st Mar 2024 at 14:35
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Post #261
Looking good mate

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Posted 9th Apr 2024 at 12:51
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Post #262
hovis16 wrote:
Looking good mate


Cheers! I'm a bit jealous of your fresh paint Thumbs up

For a bit of motivation I got the tyres fitted and put the wheels on the car.





The 'Speedline Corse' stickers on the centre caps had fallen off in the delivery boxes so, there's no hope of them staying put on the car + the orange 'Corse' doesn't look right. I've got Rikky/vehicledecalsuk on the case for PTS flags on a white background under domed resin Thumbs up

Finished off the pretensioner wiring. Original plan was to have a single wire from the SRS module to the pretensioner but, Peugeot put joints in the wire for a reason - which is to make seat removal easier. I bought some extra Deutsch connectors and inserted them at the required places.





Also got some Deutsch connector securing clips to hold the connectors to the chassis in the original positions.



Tidy!

Ideally, the Emerald ECU is going to want a wideband input so, bought an Innovate Motorsport AFR gauge/wideband controller + wideband O2 sensor.
The gauge will go in place of the oil temp gauge I'd installed (since got the OE dash temp gauge working & confirmed the OE and aftermarket gauges read exactly the same) like so.



Went for the 'analogue' version (sweeping needle) as opposed to the digital readout as it matches the instrument cluster better Blush

To get the O2 sensor cabling from the gauge to the engine bay, I found a 16mm hole in the panel that the pedals bolt to. It's to the right of the heter matrix hoses looking from inside the car. I had to trim away the sound deadening to reveal the hole.



Here it is from the engine side.



I had to shave the plug on the cable a bit to get it through. Fitted a gromet and made sure there was protection against any sharp edges.



Ran the cable on the brake pipe/heat shield bracket so it's away from the exhaust and heater matrix pipes.



Undecided if I'll fit the wideband in to the original position on the exhaust and splice in the narrowband signal, that the gauge emulates, to the ecu or if I'll have an extra port welded in to the exhaust and run the wide and narrowband until the Emerald is fitted. Advise welcome.

Also, cleaned the sludge from the seats. I rented a rug doctor 4 or 5 years ago and did the seats so I was surprised at how filthy they'd got! I used a Bissell SpotClean I got in a Black Friday deal this time around.



As it stands, I need to shove the flocked dash in and refit the seats then she should be ready for an MOT.

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Posted 18th Apr 2024 at 10:22
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Post #263
Really coming on. be good to get it out for summer

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Posted 25th Apr 2024 at 09:10
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Post #264
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Really coming on. be good to get it out for summer


Thanks Ben. Last 6 months have been back and forth trying to get the bloody thing where I want it. I do know how to make a rod for my own back though!

Anyway, MOT booked for Monday so hopefully be out and about before too long.

Here's a strange one. Insurance renewal came in about a month ago. Rang and told them car was having some work so put renewal on hold and let insurance lapse. Called them today to renew, recorded the new wheels and flocked dash...

... £40 cheaper than the renewal quote a month ago Dunno

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Posted 25th Apr 2024 at 14:04
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Post #265
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ben306 wrote:
Really coming on. be good to get it out for summer


Thanks Ben. Last 6 months have been back and forth trying to get the bloody thing where I want it. I do know how to make a rod for my own back though!

Anyway, MOT booked for Monday so hopefully be out and about before too long.

Here's a strange one. Insurance renewal came in about a month ago. Rang and told them car was having some work so put renewal on hold and let insurance lapse. Called them today to renew, recorded the new wheels and flocked dash...

... £40 cheaper than the renewal quote a month ago Dunno



That's a proper bonus.

I have mine on a classic policy with my camper and surprising how they cover all the mods and prefer them to be messed with

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Posted 29th Apr 2024 at 16:17
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Well, she went through the MOT second time of asking. I'd had enough of working on it so got the garage to the couple of bits it needed to get through the MOT (headlight beam & parking brake).

With a clean sheet, I took her out for a spin, after an alignment, on Saturday. Car felt great and seems to be running better than ever although, I should've taken things easier on the new tyres as I almost went straight on at a corner Whistle

Gave her a good clean Saturday afternoon as I'd been accepted on to the Hot Hatch display at Goodwood's 100th Breakfast meet on the Sunday.

I got there just after 7am and it was fairly quiet...


But I was soon joined by plenty of Fiesta's, Clio's, 205's, Lancia Delta's etc.


Picture from Goodwood/Facebook

This lovely Renault 5 Turbo2 joined the party a bit later than most.




And this Citroen AX was parked on the circuit just beyond the Super Shell building.





Still draws crowd (open bonnet helps).



Towards the end of the meet I moved next to the 205 Rallye that had been on the Classic and Sportscar photoshoot (end of 2022?).



It was a good day. The breakfast clubs can get a bit tedious with a single theme but, this one, being the 100th celebraion, had multiple themes so there was plenty to see.

I haven't taken a pic of the flocked dash in and the car complete yet (unusual for me) but, here's a pic of when the dash went in for the last time and I'd started putting bits back.



And, I don't think I'd mentined the wheels. The 'Speedline' stickers on the cetre caps had mostly fallen off in the delivery boxes and the orange 'Corse' doesn't realy fit the rest of the colours on the car.



So Rikky/Vehicle Decals UK kindly agreed to make some PTS stickers in domed resin as replacements.







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Posted 8th May 2024 at 15:29
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Post #267
Hey Tom! Your car is an absolute dream to me! I really hope I can build something similar! Currently my engine is beeing rebuilt, courtesy of a spun rod bearing of course!!!

Wondering about that naughty move you made, replacing the heat exchanger with a DW8 one!!! Can you shed some lights on where to get the oil filter insert! Should be this one correct? 1103 J3 from what I cant tell from catcar info right?

Can you provide a link on where to buy it? it's proving a little difficult! Mine isn't leaking (i think), but I don't want to rely on a 30 year old part, assuming I can purchase a new one

Many thanks mate!

Posted 23rd May 2024 at 16:30
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Also, maybe you can give some help on this matter:

I'd want to mount both the heat Exchanger and an oil sandwich to mount the oil cooler

I imagine I need an even long hollow bolt insert thingy so that I can mount everything inline with each other right? I imagine there's no off the shelf part for this adaptation right?

Any help you can give me is greatly appreciated!!! M

Many thanks mate
Posted 23rd May 2024 at 16:42
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Hi Tguedes98, thak you!

The DW8 hollow oil filter bolt is indeed part number 1103 J3 and, as far as I can tell, is only available from Peugeot.

An oil cooler sandwich plate will come with an extended bolt that goes through the sandwich plate and screws on to where the oil filter would normally go (the oil filter then screws to the extended sandwich plate bolt).

Hope that makes sense?

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Posted 24th May 2024 at 13:18
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S8-Tom wrote:
Hi Tguedes98, thak you!

The DW8 hollow oil filter bolt is indeed part number 1103 J3 and, as far as I can tell, is only available from Peugeot.

An oil cooler sandwich plate will come with an extended bolt that goes through the sandwich plate and screws on to where the oil filter would normally go (the oil filter then screws to the extended sandwich plate bolt).

Hope that makes sense?


Hi Tom! Yes, that makes perfect sense!
Thanks mate, cheers
Posted 26th May 2024 at 16:25
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Post #271
S8-Tom wrote:
Hope this still works.





Well, after a fair few miles it's failed. I don't think there's actually any issue in taking it apart to refurbish but, I think adjusting the rod has knackered the seal on the bit that slides back and forth as you apply and release the brakes (the actual diaphragm is fine). I had to pull the rod through the opening, clamp in place and adjust numerous times and I may have over extended things and damaged the seal Dunno

S8-Tom wrote:


The powdercoat is thicker than the original paint. This means that the master cylinder is sitting slightly further out than it once was meaning that the rod inside the servo, that connects the brake pedal to the master cylinder, needs adjusting.




alcon wrote:


It is still available by the way at Peugeot Museum.....if you think it's worth 179 euros



So, I stumped up the cash and bought one of the Museum items. It's the one on the right in the pic below...



Spot the problem?



It's quite a bit smaller Thumbs down

To cut a long story short, I've had a month long battle trying to get them to take it back. I've bought a used one, from a 60K miles 2L 16v car, and tidied it up it (it's the one on the left in the pic).

Also, back in May 2022 I bought some brand new cam covers from the Museum.

S8-Tom wrote:


...bit the bullet and bought some NOS cam covers from the Peugeot Museum



New seals Love





Aaaaand the seal on the rear cover has failed. I got a very gallic shrug from the Museum along the lines of "well it's an old part, what do you expect?" Well, it's actually a new part and I'd expect it to last a bit longer than 18months (by the timne it failed). I attempted a repair but you'll see from the pic below that that didn't work. Interestingly, whilst the new front cam cover had the expected grey seal, the rear had a white seal that looked to have been finished with a brush Doh

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Posted 2nd Aug 2024 at 11:53
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Post #272
That sucks!

I am a bit reluctant from buying to many parts "new" from the museum. It is not clear if it is new old stock or newly fabricated parts. I strongly have the impression it is all NOS...

I believe PTFE gaskets are available on eBay. Seen some good reviews...

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Posted 2nd Aug 2024 at 13:11
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Post #273
its a mix, I''ve bought a few bits recently and it was all new stock.

quite possible stuff like castings would be old stock as Peugeot sold a lot of their machinery and tooling for XU engines a long time ago.

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Posted 2nd Aug 2024 at 19:18
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Post #274
Doesn't rikky do gaskets for the covers?

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Pair of Rallye's doing a few laps of Anglesey


Lap of Anglesey Coastal

3 sisters circuit

Few laps at Blyton
Posted 3rd Aug 2024 at 05:29
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Joep wrote:
That sucks!

I am a bit reluctant from buying to many parts "new" from the museum. It is not clear if it is new old stock or newly fabricated parts. I strongly have the impression it is all NOS...

I believe PTFE gaskets are available on eBay. Seen some good reviews...


welshpug! wrote:
its a mix, I''ve bought a few bits recently and it was all new stock.

.


There's usually an indication of the part being original or reproduction. Cam covers were listed as an original part although the rear one should've been advertised as 'reproduction' as I think they've applied the 'seal' themselves. The brake booster was advertsied as a reproduction part.

Joep wrote:


I believe PTFE gaskets are available on eBay. Seen some good reviews...


ben306 wrote:
Doesn't rikky do gaskets for the covers?


Yep, Rikky / Vehicle Decals UK to the rescue Thumbs up

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