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 Day666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2351
Well they aren’t cheap BUT my god they have made my life so much easier...and safe ...I’ve put the car on them today and went under the car with all the car compressed as if on the floor ...I could check everything and adjust everything with correct ride height   |
 Posted 6th Jun 2020 at 14:58
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2352
All the info on the bottom and very very lightweight...sadly x4 of them don’t go inside each other but they stack ok ... |
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Posted 6th Jun 2020 at 14:58
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2353
Sorry I’ve not done any updates recently....been updating the Kitchen for the Mrs / Boss - keeping her happy  .(New item) Satchel Enginnering designed hubs = larger internal splines that use the oversize 608 outer CVs that are 25% larger than 406 CVs I use now ....  |
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Posted 6th Jun 2020 at 14:58
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2354
The above Satchel hubs are basically the Citroen C2R2max flanges that are NLA unless you want to pay £400 ....they were £238.80 before last year ...they use the standard 406 hubs and 406 bearings .... |
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Posted 6th Jun 2020 at 14:59
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2355
Here’s the complete 608 outer CVs with Satchel shafts and Sequencial inner CVs from VW / Audi ...you can see how big the outer CVs are huge. [PS these are Tony Palfreys not mine] |
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Posted 6th Jun 2020 at 17:09
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clen666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #2356
No increase in torque steer with the unequal length drive shafts?________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 5th Oct 2019 at 02:43
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2357
clen666 wrote: No increase in torque steer with the unequal length drive shafts? Hi Graeme That’s not mine ...that’s Tony Palfreys rally car spares of Maxi Motorsports / Satchel but mine are similar but with GKN Circuit inner Motorsport CVs ... Tony and Colin have been testing and using them for the last 12months and no issues or failures at all Remember my cars not ready to testify PS they both run the same Sequencial box and engine . |
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Posted 5th Oct 2019 at 09:21
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2358
Im going to run these inners because the travel on the Suspension its so great or needed on a circuit car  |
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Posted 6th Jun 2020 at 15:00
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2359
(Hopefully)....some updates this weekend ..after updating the Kitchen for the Mrs (playing the game getting brownie points ...I’m playing again putting the car together this Sat/ Sunday Small update and hopefully some useful info for you guys saving you some dosh .... I’m running new Satchel drive flange hubs now and will be fitting New SKF 406 hub bearings ...remember I run All Satchel 406 Hubs and modified arms etc NOT 306 ones on my 306 Below is a picture of SKF 406 bearing wheel kit and code ....£19.60 per side direct off of SKF UK ... They now sell direct through Google = (SKF VSM UK) you don’t need a account or be trade That price is half what anyone else is charging ...but remember that’s 406 ... I’m a great fan of SKF and SKF aftermarket products...I personally think they are the best manufacturer of bearings in the World .... |
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Posted 16th Oct 2019 at 15:59
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2360
Stupid me 306/6 run same front wheel bearings as 406 Also (SKF VSM UK) list timing belt kits / CVs and driveshafts ...can’t say if they are cheap but they will be as good as OE ...  |
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Posted 6th Jun 2020 at 15:00
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Rob306GTi
Newbie  Location: Echt Registered: 17 Jul 2017 Posts: 3 Status: Offline |
Post #2361
Good to see you're making progress, Damien, keep up the good work!________________________________________ Less weight, more speed! |
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Posted 16th Oct 2019 at 19:34
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2362
Rob306GTi wrote: Good to see you're making progress, Damien, keep up the good work! Thank you Rob Hope everything’s going well your end ? |
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Posted 20th Oct 2019 at 20:32
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2363
Small update ...not that interesting Fitting new SkF 406 bearings to 406 hubs on the front with modified Satchel 4 wheel stud flanges ...they are 406 ones that have been machined out in the centres and new internal splines machined in to except the oversized 608 outer CVs that are 25% larger splines and CVs ..  |
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Posted 6th Jun 2020 at 15:01
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2364
Bearing and machined flange fitted  |
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Posted 6th Jun 2020 at 15:01
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2365
It’s a modded standard 406 flange machined out centre with 25% larger internal splines  |
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Posted 6th Jun 2020 at 15:02
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2366
608 CVs Much larger than 406 standard ones ... |
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Posted 6th Jun 2020 at 15:02
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2367
PS ...I’ve got very large size 12 hands ...hopefully this gives a prospective  |
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Posted 6th Jun 2020 at 15:02
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2368
This is the (OLD) internal splines flanges ..406 ones ...see how much smaller the splined hole is in the centre than the 608 ones now  |
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Posted 6th Jun 2020 at 15:03
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #2369
Looks great but is all that really necessary? I don't think destroying cv's or splines is a particular problem is it? Given all the sc cars that are destroying gearboxes before driveshafts I'd always thought the shafts/cv's were fairly strong? ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 21st Oct 2019 at 22:30
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2370
pete_rallye wrote: Looks great but is all that really necessary? I don't think destroying cv's or splines is a particular problem is it? Given all the sc cars that are destroying gearboxes befo re driveshafts I'd always thought the shafts/cv's were fairly strong? Hi Pete ...hope your well m8 Your correct and totally OTT but also Future proofing buy once makes sense to crazy me Plus my cars 75mm each side wider Also Sandys uprating my engine next year 300hp hopefully with mental torque all 2.0L I blew both my Inner CVs at Combe last time out when I took Blandy =Mike Bland out for a spin ... My reasoning is I get Satchel shafts made to my length with the Sequencial in the price and I paid a little extra for GKD inner CVs ...so seeing as the Cv outers come in the gearbox package too I might as well pay a little extra difference too ... It’s more for piece of mind Pete... Now the gearbox will take the power it’s possibly going to find the next weakest item and I’m guessing CVs possibility? Citroen Sport = C2Max2 use same flange spline size and CVs size for some reason be it a professional rally car My thinking is £8k on a gearbox and a couple of hundred pounds more isn’t the end of the world to give extra piece of mind ...PS you may of read ?....my old gearbox was a six speed Standard rebuilt Miles box with Bacci Romani FD ....that is still going strong in Mike Blands car and I always used GKD CVs but remember I really use this car in anger at Combe ...I understand what your saying about SC cars blowing boxes but I believe if the box was sorted changed and could take it then the CVs or shafts would fail next on SC big power cars I’ve not really seen personally myself many Any HB or SHB SC 6s out on track at Combe doing 13 laps non Stop in anger maybe that’s because of the boxes being like cheese and not able to take the constant abuse lap after lap ....only car I’ve seen Personally running big power was Chris Lapit’s Turbo that was reliable and that had big money internals ... For me my crazy thinking is do it now seeing as the expensive shafts are made to what ever spline size patten I want 608 and are included in the gearbox package ... rather than getting the shafts made with 406 size then having to pay for yet another pair of shafts for 608 ...piece of mind in my crazy thoughts Pete I think you will agree with me the cars gone way past sensible a long long time ago ...total obsession now ...sadly  |
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Posted 22nd Oct 2019 at 09:37
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Joep
Regular Location: Urmond (The Netherlands) Registered: 19 Sep 2013 Posts: 478 Status: Offline |
Post #2371
I keep following this thread with great interest! So please keep these updates comming.Just recently I decided to build a track day car, but I will start off with wheight reduction, GAZ Gold coil overs with Baker BM adjustable topmounts, and rear axle with Xsara torsion bars. I am pretty sure my girlfriend would not fully agree on updates like yours :p ________________________________________ My car park:'96 Sigma Blue XSi6 '98 Diablo Red GTi6 '99 Onyx Black S16 All RFS powered! Plus various other Peugeots |
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Posted 22nd Oct 2019 at 10:00
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #2372
Totally agree with you regards the next thing down the line to break, I'm a bit of a fan of being able to get stuff fairly easily if it does break, and I guess if it keeps breaking then I'll look at alternatives! When you say 2.0 and 300bhp is that genuine 2.0 or will it be more like 2.3? Be interested in the rebuild hours involved as the only other ones I've seen are the maxi engines which could only do about 20 hours running before needing a rebuild. Even pug1off said there's wouldn't do half a season before needing a rebuild. This seems to be mostly down to the revs required to get to 300, the 2.0s I've seen are knocking on for 10k rpm with the larger capacity ones generally under 9k, just... ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 22nd Oct 2019 at 19:38
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #2373
PS. Nowt wrong with obsession, as long as you're happy you're never gonna get your money back it's all good, we all need a hobby. ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 22nd Oct 2019 at 19:40
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2374
Joep wrote: I keep following this thread with great interest! So please keep these updates comming. Just recently I decided to build a track day car, but I will start off with wheight reduction, GAZ Gold coil overs with Baker BM adjustable topmounts, and rear axle with Xsara torsion bars. I am pretty sure my girlfriend would not fully agree on updates like yours :p Definitely Good luck She doesn’t know of all of it but most of it Thank you |
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Posted 22nd Oct 2019 at 20:48
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #2375
pete_rallye wrote: Totally agree with you regards the next thing down the line to break, I'm a bit of a fan of being able to get stuff fairly easily if it does break, and I guess if it keeps breaking then I'll look at alternatives! When you say 2.0 and 300bhp is that genuine 2.0 or will it be more like 2.3? Be interested in the rebuild hours involved as the only other ones I've seen are the maxi engines which could only do about 20 hours running before needing a rebuild. Even pug1off said there's wouldn't do half a season before needing a rebuild. This seems to be mostly down to the revs required to get to 300, the 2.0s I've seen are knocking on for 10k rpm with the larger capacity ones generally under 9k, just... 100% 2.0L...my engine at mo is capped at 10,000 it was 12.. genuine 286....but Sandy capped it RPM ..don’t forget Colin’s is 298 now and he’s raced it all season ..ok up hills once not lap after lap but massively reliable ... Sandy has assured me 300hp and many seasons of use on the track ....can’t speak for Pug1off ... |
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Posted 22nd Oct 2019 at 20:59
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