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Cjwatson27

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Post #1
So I left my car unlocked whilst I was loading stuff into the boot, then it won't start locked it unlocked it nothing then after 10 mins it started straight away. Recently the remote central locking stopped working I've changed the battery but nothing.
Any help much appreciated has I don't want to have this issue again many thanks Chris

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Posted 2nd Jan 2016 at 13:31
ben01328

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Post #2
could it be the immobilizer chip in the key, Ive got 3 keys 2 of which will unlock my car but wont start it, only discover this when i was swapping cases round as the keying bit broke on one. had to swap the chip as well and it worked straight away.

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Posted 2nd Jan 2016 at 14:19
rudolf

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Get a key copied at Timpsons, remove the new chip and put into your old key fob

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Posted 2nd Jan 2016 at 18:09
Cjwatson27

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Post #4
Only got the one key , all of my wheel arch liners missing now would the alarm getting wet have anything to do with it

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Posted 3rd Jan 2016 at 22:24
bigbadbowen

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Post #5
Doesn't help when those things get wet best unplug it
Posted 4th Jan 2016 at 06:16
Cjwatson27

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Can I just unplug it and throw it away ? Or will it cause me problem ?

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Posted 4th Jan 2016 at 12:28
Cjwatson27

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Post #7
It's done it again starting fine all week took it down the road parked it up and nowt it's making all the right clicking noises just not turning over, the alarm is already unplugged 😒

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Posted 11th Jan 2016 at 19:50
Cjwatson27

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The fuel pump relays is clicking and you can hear the pump priming, could this be something to do with the starter motor ?

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Posted 11th Jan 2016 at 21:24
matt16v

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Post #9
Check the fuse for the alarm siren, IIRC the immobilizer is on the same circuit.

Phase 2 fusebox - http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=69121
Phase 3 fusebox - http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=67123

Fuse 6 on a PH3 IIRC

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Posted 12th Jan 2016 at 10:19
Cjwatson27

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It's been recovered now 😒 Does the imboliser disable the starter motor I always though it did the fuel pump ?

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Posted 12th Jan 2016 at 10:17
robthe6

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Post #11
sounds like loose battery or starter terminals. had a very similar problem where it would work for a while then stop the start turning over but everything else worked. then it would all of a sudden start.

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Posted 12th Jan 2016 at 12:53
Cjwatson27

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Post #12
It's in the garage now and I've got a horrible feeling I'm about to get my pants pulled down. I though it could be a loose terminal but for the life of me I couldn't remember where the starter motor is all even see it

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Posted 12th Jan 2016 at 18:26
roland rat

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Starter motor is under the inlet manifold Thumbs up
Posted 12th Jan 2016 at 21:45
Cjwatson27

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Ahh I wonder if this is from the smash on the front ? Maybe it's loosened the wiring

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Posted 12th Jan 2016 at 21:51
roland rat

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I'd deffo say it's a wiring issue rather than a starter motor issue.

What work was done after the bump?
Posted 12th Jan 2016 at 22:05
Cjwatson27

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Umm I used a claw hammer to pry the bonnet open and presumed the rest would fix it self, for some reason I thought the starter motor was around the back of the block

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Posted 12th Jan 2016 at 22:14
roland rat

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Cjwatson27 wrote:
Umm I used a claw hammer to pry the bonnet open and presumed the rest would fix it self, for some reason I thought the starter motor was around the back of the block


The only thing you could have damaged I'd say is the fan relays if you pryed the bonnet open from the fromt
Posted 12th Jan 2016 at 23:41
Chr1sch

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Post #18
Mine did exactly this but it didn't start again, turned out to be a fuse for the immobiliser
Posted 13th Jan 2016 at 08:15
Cjwatson27

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Ok so the imboliser stops the starter motor then ?

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Posted 13th Jan 2016 at 08:20
Chr1sch

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It was a little while back now tbh so can't remember exactly but from memory it was dead as a dodo but I think I could smell fuel, and from my limited understanding the immobiliser cuts ignition? (Sorry it was ages ago now so it's hard to recall exactly)
Posted 13th Jan 2016 at 08:29
jimmyhackers

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Post #21
i had something similar.....my friend was faffing about in the back of my car with the seats up.

the dingle managed to unplugg the massive earth plug in the middle between the seats.

completely deaded the car.

payed 30 quid to get it towed home to find all i needed to do was plug the plug back in :S

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Posted 13th Jan 2016 at 08:51
jimmyhackers

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also..... i threw away my alarm box becasue its batteries were dead.

for some reason it stopped the remote part of my central locking working, and nothing else :S

best to unplug (but dont remove yet) yours seeif it does the same as what mine did

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Posted 13th Jan 2016 at 08:58
Cjwatson27

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Ok I'll wait to see what the garage says, would make sense I was moving flats so had a load of crap on the back seats

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Posted 13th Jan 2016 at 11:00
robthe6

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Cj if they cant figure it out. let me know an ill pop down an take alook at it. im only in brackley

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Posted 13th Jan 2016 at 11:28
Cjwatson27

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£360 for recovery 3 miles down the road from where there based and a new starter motor. Yep that sounds reasonable :-(

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Posted 13th Jan 2016 at 15:28

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