What was the reason for drilling the bolts out instead of unscrewing them?

The only way forward now is to keep drilling. Use a good quality drill bit (buy a new one if you have to), go slowly and steadily on the drill and keep stopping to allow the bit to cool. Add a lubricant regularly too, this will preserve the life of the bit.

Oh. Shonky. So that's two parts which Peugeot designed to be independently serviceable that Meyle have decided to make as one.

Well, get drilling some more and then wrench the ball joint out from the arm.

Did my HDI wishbones a couple of months ago and both sides were riveted balljoints like these. One side drilled out easy with a normal metal drill bit (made a punch mark in the centre as a pilot point) but the other side was a real pain. Ended up oxyacetylene torching the bolts off!

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Riveted arms are a pain to change just the balljoints, some times its more cost effective to replace the complete arm with the 3 joints

keep drilling eventualy you will get them off
dont drill the holes too big or the ball joint will become adjustable in the arm

Should of bought decent arms that come with out ball joints ie lemforder from euro car parts the riveted arms tend to be crap quality and some even snap at the p bush - you have been warned - sense would of been to take them back and exchange them for the correct size ball joint type as well ?

In Australia the Pug community mostly order parts from Caravel imports, i called them today to try and sort it out and they just gave me advice on how to drill the bolts and to be careful. the ball joint was never meant to be on the bone, as i ordered the correct ones as well.

but yes now that i know of "euro car parts" and they specifically list Lemforder which is the manufacture i originally wanted for all parts, i will be doing that in the future but for now i need to get this car moving as it is now my every day drive.

So bigbadbowen if you know how to remove the bolts please have your helpful input, as logically just drilling the bolts will either damage the bone or it will leave a shaft of the bolt behind, damaging the bones is not what i want to do at all and having a metal shaft with no way of grabbing it for removal is just as big of a problem.

As said above increase drill bit sizes till your almost the same size as the original hole then just break the head off one side of the rivet with a hammer and chisel ? Or like I said grind though the ball joint and down inbetween the arm (side on and cut the rivet in half) you don't need the ball joint anyway

Quicker and simpler careful not to gring your bone lad!!

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Big hammer and punch or keep drilling out until it's all done

Tried this on a pattern arm for a quick last minute fix for someone a few weeks ago and ground off the rivets on one side with an angle grinder. Didn't take to long.... thought I'd then just tap them out with a punch and hammer nice and easy change the ball joint and put bolts through simples right? Nope the rivets were clearly very much interference fit pressed in and would not budge no matter how bigger hammer I used.

As said I usually only fit decent arms TRW or Lemforder which always have bolt on ball joints and are much better quality.

Cheap wishbones the Rubber boots on the ball joints perish after a few months to a year and the ball joint then fails. The P bush rubber splits very quickly too and have been known to sheer off completely due to poor welding in factory.

Buy cheap buy twice.

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Moving forward, all heads removed insides drilled out and no movement what so ever...

i'm over it, new options:

1 - due to time restraints go back to Caravel Imports and rush a delivery of the same part without ball joint (Meyle / Swag).

2 - order Ocap / Lemforder part from Euro car part and hope it arrives in time.

3 - put old worn wishbone back on, and wait for new parts, just to get back on the road.

4 - order new wishbone however possible, order full set of Lemforder for when they ware out in the near future supposedly (10% off and discounts on parts ATM, supposedly).

5 - mix of the above to get back on the road, and order a whole new set of Lemforder parts.


The current order if i go down this path is as pictured, does anyone have anything that should be added, anything and everything is considered, currently front suspension and brakes all round have been replaced with Meyle and Sasic. apart from that everything is OEM from factory, looking for upper right engine mount from Lemforder but it is not listed.

just to reiterate, the problem encountered was simply a bolted on lower ball joint that was not ordered, it came as a whole, all other parts were requested and ordered by a local mechanic.

Have you put the arm in a vice and knocked the joint to move it?

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