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 v6saloon
Senior User  Location: Ilkeston Registered: 24 Sep 2010 Posts: 619 Status: Offline |
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Right I'm going to attempt to make one of these  Can anybody advise me what gauge to use? found a decent supplier in the states but unsure what gauge to use  ________________________________________ 205 mi16405 Mi16x4 restoration project 406 v6 saloon track car project/daily driver 508 Hdi |
 Posted 23rd May 2015 at 13:50
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midlife
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
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Good luck with that  ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!! Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker  Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 23rd May 2015 at 14:38
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v6saloon
Senior User Location: Ilkeston Registered: 24 Sep 2010 Posts: 619 Status: Offline |
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midlife wrote: Good luck with that What do you mean? couple hrs work and it will be good to go  ________________________________________ 205 mi16405 Mi16x4 restoration project 406 v6 saloon track car project/daily driver 508 Hdi |
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Posted 23rd May 2015 at 17:28
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6waysforward
Seasoned Pro  Location: Benfleet essex Registered: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,168 Status: Offline |
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Mate I've got 16 years fabrication/ welding behind me. I have welded everything from tin foil to Ocean going tanker hulls. I am very confident I could do it but I am also aware that it's not a job taken lightly unless you have access to a workshop with the right tools. But fair play to you if your going to give it a go. Hope your a patient man. ________________________________________ ***Breaking*** Ph3 Silver GTI 6 High Boost |
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Posted 23rd May 2015 at 23:00
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RallyeP6
Regular  Location: West Byfleet Registered: 11 Jul 2013 Posts: 451 Status: Offline |
Post #5
I totaled up 56 hours of hacksawing, grinding, filing and tacking, to get my manifold done, plus the time it took a friend of mine to weld it all together. It can be done, be patient!. |
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Posted 23rd May 2015 at 23:41
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Weekends work tops ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 00:23
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v6saloon
Senior User Location: Ilkeston Registered: 24 Sep 2010 Posts: 619 Status: Offline |
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Thanks guys, just need to get the flanges cut and wait for the pipe to come from the states and I can get started, will try and keep updated on here of my progress  ________________________________________ 205 mi16405 Mi16x4 restoration project 406 v6 saloon track car project/daily driver 508 Hdi |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 09:17
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
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Can you get Pistons for the v6 or would you be able to use decompression plates. Have you though about maybe buthchering a orginal manifold it might help you with some of the parts and bends ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 10:13
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v6saloon
Senior User Location: Ilkeston Registered: 24 Sep 2010 Posts: 619 Status: Offline |
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Cjwatson27 wrote: Can you get Pistons for the v6 or would you be able to use decompression plates. Have you though about maybe buthchering a orginal manifold it might help you with some of the parts and bends No pistons available so it's going to be decompression plates, the original manifolds are cast, not sure if the rest is mild steel or stainless but would rather just to the whole thing from scratch tbh ________________________________________ 205 mi16405 Mi16x4 restoration project 406 v6 saloon track car project/daily driver 508 Hdi |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 10:19
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #10
original manifolds are cast, so a no go there.anything is possible regarding the pistons, just supply a drawing to a company that makes pistons! DP engineering made 317 bhp on stock engine for 6 years now. you introduce many complications if you use decompression plates, your inlet manifold wont fit for a start! ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 10:27
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Ever see a turbo v6 in a 306 or 205 mei ? Just out of interest my pockets are no way deeper enough for a build like that. ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 10:31
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #12
never seen one up close but DP-Engineering have that manifold pictured in a 406.main costs are the time to make the manifold and the turbo itself, and an ecu to run it, specifically converting to a V6 doesn't cost that much if you diy it. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 11:16
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v6saloon
Senior User Location: Ilkeston Registered: 24 Sep 2010 Posts: 619 Status: Offline |
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Cjwatson27 wrote: Ever see a turbo v6 in a 306 or 205 mei ? Just out of interest my pockets are no way deeper enough for a build like that. there is a 306 v6 turbo out there, seen videos of it on YouTube ________________________________________ 205 mi16405 Mi16x4 restoration project 406 v6 saloon track car project/daily driver 508 Hdi |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 13:41
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v6saloon
Senior User Location: Ilkeston Registered: 24 Sep 2010 Posts: 619 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: original manifolds are cast, so a no go there. anything is possible regarding the pistons, just supply a drawing to a company that makes pistons! DP engineering made 317 bhp on stock engine for 6 years now. you introduce many complications if you use decompression plates, your inlet manifold wont fit for a start! Maybe that could be a better option then? Is there anywhere you would recommend? ________________________________________ 205 mi16405 Mi16x4 restoration project 406 v6 saloon track car project/daily driver 508 Hdi |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 13:43
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Why are you getting pipe from the states? Is it that much cheaper? ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 13:47
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
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I have no experience with v6 engines but could you not use the original manifolds and send the down pipes to a remotely mounted turbo? The one pictured appears to do that or an I missing something? ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 13:50
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #17
it could be done very easily yes, I think its just that the standard D8 manifolds are perceived to be a bit restrictive, but they clamp to some easily adaptable V-band style clamps before joining the link pipe then the downpipe itself.  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 14:03
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Could be a simple cheap solution for a low pressure setup using standard compression......________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 14:09
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #19
That's what I was wondering wether the engine would be ok with just a sensible amount of boost using its standard internals ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 15:20
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #20
As welshpug has already mentioned DP have been running the 406 that way for a while now. And let's face it, if it did go pop engines are hardly expensive to replace! ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 15:48
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #21
not sure how much boost/air they are running through it, but to last that long and make 120 bhp over stock is good going, its about 55% increase, which is just about exactly what the low boost gti6's are over standard.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 15:51
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v6saloon
Senior User Location: Ilkeston Registered: 24 Sep 2010 Posts: 619 Status: Offline |
Post #22
This was more to see what power I can get at high pressure so the compression needs to be lowered, am aiming for a minimum of 400 hp.....I'm sure it can be done at low pressure much easier and I did consider doing this but I like to complicate things :-/ ________________________________________ 205 mi16405 Mi16x4 restoration project 406 v6 saloon track car project/daily driver 508 Hdi |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 15:57
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v6saloon
Senior User Location: Ilkeston Registered: 24 Sep 2010 Posts: 619 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Plus the d8 v6 is lower compression than the d9________________________________________ 205 mi16405 Mi16x4 restoration project 406 v6 saloon track car project/daily driver 508 Hdi |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 16:00
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #24
So that 120bhp is on a stock engine ? ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 16:03
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #25
its 10.5 to 10.9, not a significant difference.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 16:12
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