Post #51
supply to the rail is the back one return is the front one
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 pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 23:21
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #52
yep, I'd pull the feed off the rail just to confirm.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 23:25
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #53
Worth the try ? I have no idea how the inside of a swirlpot works ? Is it just a tank with inlet/outlet connections ? |
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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 23:26
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pugheaven
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Post #54
 The back one is the supply yes? Surely if they were on the wrong way round it wouldn't start on the low pressure pump either |
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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 23:27
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pugheaven
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Post #55
bigbadbowen wrote: Worth the try ? I have no idea how the inside of a swirlpot works ? Is it just a tank with inlet/outlet connections ? yup with baffles |
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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 23:28
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #56
yup, top is feed, bottom is return, you can see it on mine here, feed goes to front rail then up to the standard fuel rail where the FPR is then back to the tank, no swirl pot as the ZX has a small basic bowl integrated into it so resists fuel surge very well.[url]https://flic.kr/p/qZYfJR]  [/url]________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 23:32
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #57
yup that's how mine is, did you watch the video on the previous page, I don't even get to fully connect the power to the 044 before the engine dies its with in a split second?!? |
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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 23:35
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #58
well, I'd start by confirming the pipes are connected to the rail the right way round, pull the feed pipe off and fire up the HP pump on its own.a separate question that may be related, have you fixed the battery light and is it charging? wondering if the battery voltage is low and the additional load drops the voltage too low for the ecu to run. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 23:40
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #59
no I haven't fixed the battery light problem as I don't know whats wrong with it.... so you may have a point there!The little wire is on the correct terminal, iv still got to split the looms and check them and then put them back together and see if that fixs it |
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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 23:43
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #60
Well switch the feed and return just for s**ts and giggles ? I'm sure the internal of the swirlpot is designed in such a way that supply fuel is directed to swirl round the pot ? The return isnt ? As I understand if you presureise the return it will cut out instantly ? |
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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 23:44
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #61
welshpug! wrote: well, I'd start by confirming the pipes are connected to the rail the right way round, pull the feed pipe off and fire up the HP pump on its own. a separate question that may be related, have you fixed the battery light and is it charging? wondering if the battery voltage is low and the additional load drops the voltage too low for the ecu to run. What voltage are you getting at the battery when car running ? Should be around 14v if alt is working correctly ? I did recently have a prob on a 205 with a bad alt - no battery light at all and wasn't prividing a proper amount of electric ? New alt sorted all problems |
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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 23:49
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pugheaven
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Post #62
not had the engine running long enough to check voltage yet as I didn't want it running lean or rich for too long for obvious reasons |
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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 23:53
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #63
I had issues with my Efi back in the day needing a new alt as old one wasn't up to the job ? Longmans changed it for a brand new unit when they were doing the mapping. I'd say that was a good starting point as something is not right ? You can run the engine long enough to check voltage bud ? |
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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 23:58
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pugheaven
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Post #64
ill give it ago tomorrow, the alternator was a "known good unit" that I got off a member!Lot of f**king about but I guess it has to be done lol |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2015 at 00:00
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #65
Try a different alt |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2015 at 00:00
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pugheaven
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Post #66
don't have any spare ones, got to change the pulley etc over too! |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2015 at 00:02
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bigbadbowen
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Post #67
The only know good thing is a new thing in my experience |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2015 at 00:02
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #68
Get a nice shiney new one on exchange from any motor factors ? |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2015 at 00:03
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bigbadbowen
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Post #69
I've prob got a spare kicking about ? |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2015 at 00:04
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #70
ill check voltage first, I only paid £20 delivered for it so not that bud just a pain swapping the pulley over |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2015 at 00:08
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #71
Start it up check voltage turn off again 14.5v is a decent charge. Surely all it needs to idle safely is standard lift pump don't see how it would be running lean enough to cause damage unless it was boosting. Havnt watched the vid but if it's as much of an instant death as soon as you connect the 044 as you say then it sounds electrical not fuel pressure related.________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2015 at 00:13
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #72
I can't remember the exact details as it was a long time ago now, but I remember having a fairly new alternator on my high boost and tried transferring it to the super high boost when I built that but the casing fouled the bigger supercharger bracket.Rich explained that the newer alternators didn't fit and he had to source me one from an older '6' which would fit instead. Just thought I'd mention that in case you thought sod it and ordered a new one to find it didn't fit. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2015 at 00:16
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #73
yup it has to be one with out a shroud  cant remember if its the newer or older one I need |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2015 at 00:20
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bigbadbowen
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Post #74
pugheaven wrote: ill check voltage first, I only paid £20 delivered for it so not that bud just a pain swapping the pulley over I did exactly the same thing on the 205 stdt I had - ended up buying a recon unit from my local motor factor - job done and lesson learnt the hard way as usuall  |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2015 at 00:20
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #75
I'll dig through my crud and find the spare alts I have bud ? Your welcome to try them |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2015 at 00:22
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