Upshot being, from October 1st this year:

1. You no longer need to display a tax disc

2. You can now pay for tax by Direct Debit (1/6/12 months)

3. You can no longer sell a car with a tax. Your remaining months get refunded, new owner has to re-tax it themselves before then can drive it. That's fairly annoying.

4. Someone at the DVLA actually paid for and approved this video

The most annoying point being the sale of vehicles. You test-drive the vehicle (your third-party insurance covers this as it's not your car, and it's taxed by them), all's good. You hand over the money, it's now your car. Your insurance no longer covers it (and you can't get daily insurance anymore) and the tax is no longer valid. Before you leave you have to phone up or go online and re-tax it with the V5C/2. That seems like a lot of faff.

Plus you only get full months refunded, so even if you were driving it home for one day to lock it in a garage and strip it down, you've lost a month's tax and plenty of insurance fees.

Not meant as a rant (Stan will do that, I'm sure) but I don't really get why they couldn't just have transferred the tax over to the new keeper as well. In the grand scheme of things it's not that much money we're talking, it's just irritating.

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i wonder if they charge interest for direct debit, and how they work out the saving based on paying for X months

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It'll be like the current system I'd imagine, e.g.:

£200 / year
£120 / 6 months
£25 / month

So not "interest" as such, but you'll still pay more for paying monthly. Then you probably get refunded at the annual rate to make sure you get back as little as possible. If they didn't do it that way you could buy a tax then refund it after a month for a profit. I'd guess they've thought of that.

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Then you use the phone.



In order for a car to be taxed, it has to be insured. If it's not insured, you have to immediately declare it SORN. Having your car at home taxed but not insured can get you a £100 initially, then court and £1000 if it happens again.

Therefore you can do one-day insurance, but the day after you have to declare the car SORN again, losing a month's road tax.

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Just ask who your buying it off to cash in the tax the next day. You can then go get some before it is removed from the DVLA system

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What a joke. Does this mean a car dealership can't sell you a car with tax? This country is getting worse by the day/year. I wounder how much the dvla makes in road tax a year? And what does it go towards?

Back in the day road tax was for the "up keep" of the roads and nowadays it's all about the emissions ect your car puts out, they are taking the fun out of driving and it p**ses me right off. When is road tax going to stop going up in price? Will I one day be paying £1000 a year for a 2.0 gti? We all need to unite and no one in the country to pay road tax for a year and see what happens- they can't fine everyone.... It cost me more to tax my gti a year than insure it........they are robbing bars**rds and anyone who agrees with them and thinks this is a good idea needs shooting. Rant over!

There will obviously be ways that they can register it on your behalf, I'm sure they'll have thought of it.

Same as the insurance thing - it's easy to get all wavy-army about it but it's not meant to be screwing people over for having no insurance for a day, the legislation is there to stop uninsured drivers keeping cars on their driveway and just claiming they don't drive it if asked. Under the new rules, if the Police think you've been driving it uninsured, they can just fine you for not having it insured. I don't even know if anyone's been fined for it yet.

As Meirieirnriernirrnoron says there's been no such thing as "Road Tax" for years, it's a duty on owning a vehicle. The money raised goes into the general pot of UK cash, so it goes towards the otherwise free roads, parks, police, fire service, NHS, schools and general running of a country. So yes, probably one day you will be paying £1k a year for a 2.0 Pug, but by that point the minimum wage will probably be £30 an hour and it won't be a problem.

2000 people have been killed in Gaza in the past few months. We can no longer transfer road fund licences between cars. I know which country I'd rather stay living in.

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Another reason not to vote lab/lib cons. Im beginning to think maybe this chem trailing is actually true! Either the uk has been brainwashed or we can't see clearly due to our heads being up our arse.

Children are being beheaded in the middle east. Anyone who gets angry about car tax needs to re-assess.

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Couldn't agree more Dave, but then we often seem to have the same outlook on life when it comes to politics.

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My point exactly! The British bend over and take it, lube or not! What happened to our back bone?!

It starts at the top, above the puppet leaders obama/cameron etc, our attitudes, beliefs and culture is eroded away bit by bit, right from child education and through controlled media. Over generations these small changes become the norm.

Ha ha me and stan the new coalition, little and large! We would now be labelled as racist and extreme right wing but one or two generations ago we would be seen as in the middle and speaking common sense. How things change..

Road tax has never even been enough to cover the building and maintenance of roads and more money for this has always been obtained through other government monies.

I disagree with VED myself, but I know what it is. Starting a huge rant about it and then using it to show that the whole country has effectively gone to the dogs is just incoherent, and on that subject, when did we have a backbone?
Back in the days of Churchill perhaps? Here's a direct quote from him arguing that Road Tax purely funding roads should be abolished:
"Entertainments may be taxed; public houses may be taxed...and the yield devoted to the general revenue. But motorists are to be privileged for all time to have the tax on motors devoted to roads? This is an outrage upon...common sense."

Everyone has the right to voice their opinions, but an opinion expressed out of hand that demonstrates a clear lack of knowledge on the subject even after a quick google can also be dismissed out of hand, and that's just what people are doing when they see you complain about a near-century old for of taxation which has roots in the 1800s and use it to explain why nobody should vote for a certain party, including chemtrails (which I had to look up because it is so obscure and lacking in evidence that it is never promoted).

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I bet there are a few tax disc holder factories on the other side of the world happily churning them out unaware that demand is going to pretty much cease overnight.

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