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rallyeash

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Hello, due to a big change in my working career I require selling the car transporter trailer which I have not long owned.

purchased brand new from an main IFor Williams dealer (who I work for) earlier this year the trailer is still in its warranty period until next April. The trailer so far has been used twice to tow a Ford KA and my 205 to work and covered under 100 miles so far from being new. Tyres still have there bobbles on still!

So,

One as new Ifor Williams CT115 car transporter. 11x5ft bed with Single axle, spare wheel rack fitted, complete with Hitch lock. IFor Williams warranty until April 2015. Gross trailer weight is 1400kg and trailer weighs 350kg so perfect for 306 race cars, 205's, 106's and that sort of thing. Tows lovely as you would expect and in fantastic condition.

Further info can be found here. http://iwt.co.uk/products/car-transporter/ct115-and-ct136?tab=spec

New you are looking at near £2000 including the VAT for this trailer with the wheel rack and hitch lock.

Priced to sell at £1700




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Posted 30th Jul 2014 at 11:01
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Question and I'm sure the answer is yes... Will a 306 fit easily enough on there? It's just the gross weight appears to be 1400kg, and the trailer weight itself is 350kg.

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Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 10:56
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yes you have 1050kg of vehicle to stick on there. if your buying a car trailer then I highly doubt your towing a full fat road going 306 around. Ive seen race 306's down to 900kg and track cars under 1000kg so you are legal if you know the weight of your car.

physically fitting wont be a problem either, my 205 has bags of room...

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Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 12:02
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If anyone wants some photos of my 205 loaded on the trailer to give an idea of size I will be moving the car and trailer 2 miles down the road this evening to my new unit. Off to Thailand tomorrow....

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Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 12:04
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rallyeash wrote:
yes you have 1050kg of vehicle to stick on there. if your buying a car trailer then I highly doubt your towing a full fat road going 306 around. Ive seen race 306's down to 900kg and track cars under 1000kg so you are legal if you know the weight of your car.


Is the 'weight' of the car being towed not based on it's MAM plated weight?

A stripped 306 would be under the capacity on scales when physically weighed all together on a bridge, but I believe it is policed on plated weights of the 3 components (tow car, trailer and load)?

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  • Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 12:20
    pebbles167

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    The ruling for towing is f**king outrageous frankly. Its the worst set of rules I've ever seen, far worse even than the overly complicated Motorcycle rules.

    Its nearly impossible to know what you can do, even they dont know when questioned. A complete law onto themselves.

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    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 12:33
    rallyeash

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    Post #7
    its not complicated atall.

    Gross weight on this trailer is 1400kg. 350kg is the trailer itself leading to 1050kg of load.

    on a standard car license like most of you will have you are allowed a maximum train weight of 3,500kg.

    So take an average sized modern hatch which weighs 1600kg, you need to check to see what it is allowed to tow. Lets call it 1500kg for the exercise.

    Tow car = 1600kg, 350kg trailer and 1000kg load (1350kg total trailed weight) gives a total train weight of 2950kg.
    Being under 3,500 this is legal.

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    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 12:42
    rallyeash

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    The problem you get is when you start towing with larger vans, 4x4's etc etc.

    for example using my Isuzu Dmax for towing a 1350kg combo as above instantly puts it over 3,500kg train weight which you are allowed to tow.

    unless you have a B+E license like I have and can tow a maximum train weight of 7,500kg.

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    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 12:45
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    See I was under the same impression as you but after speaking to visa they said I would need to do my license...
    5 series bmw 1800kg, trailer 450kg and dimma 1000kg
    The 5 series can tow 1500 with a braked trailer!
    In my eyes I don't need to do the category b+e but they said other wise Dunno

    If your trailer was 18" wider I would have had it Sad
    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 13:05
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    It's worse than that, depends if you did your car licence before 1997, after 1997 but before 2013, or after 2013.

    I'm in the middle, so I can tow a trailer with a MAM of 750kg or less. Doesn't matter its actual weight, if it *can* take over 750kg, points for me. Ridiculous.

    IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MAMS.

    PS Try speaking to VOSA, they'll probably be more useful than your credit card company

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    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 13:15
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    Lol o meant vosa.... It appears I was given false info as I just phoned 0300 790 6801 option 3 then 7 and was told that as long as I'm under 3.5t combined, that the tow car has a minimum mam of 1.5t I'm fine so...
    The bmw is 1800 and can tow 1500 braked
    The trailer is 500kg maximum it can take is 2000kg
    The dimma is less than 1000kg
    So I'm under 3.5 combined
    The trailer is towing well under its max weight
    The trailer and dimma is just under the towing capacity of the bmw

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    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 13:29
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    When did you do your license olly?

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    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 13:33
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    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 13:46
    owain

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    All the info is here, as long as the car, the trailer, your luggage and everything on the trailer is under 3.5t you should be good. Reality is though that could be tricky if towing a car, so be careful.

    1.8 car + 0.5 trailer + 1.0 car = 3.3t minimum without people in the car, luggage, any spare wheels etc. You're pretty borderline.

    Now someone buy this guy's trailer FFS.

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    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 13:51
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    I have a B + E licence, as well as D + E and I still dont know what the f**k is going on

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    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 14:30
    rallyeash

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    if you have B+E just don't worry about it!

    Now buy my trailer!

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    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 14:37
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    I do need like it, but have no use for it.

    Its a good price for a trailer such as this.

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    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 14:52
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    I was under the impression the law works off what the trailer is plated to carry rather than what it's actually carrying. Trailers can be legally re-plated to take less weight and bring them under the legal limit though.

    Anyway, yet another one of ashs for sale threads f**ked over...... Awesome trailers, I've got the bigger twin axle ifor and it's superb, build quality is much better than a lot of the others! Good luck with the sale buddy! Smile

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    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 17:32
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    If it gets you within the restrictions then yes, you can have your trailer downplated. However if you then put more than that on it, you're now technically overweight. However this is a car forum, so most of us are probably overweight anyway.

    Still no-one wants to buy this trailer though. Sorry mate.

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    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 17:34
    rallyeash

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    Allan, that used to be the law, recently it changed to what the vehicle can tow.

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    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 20:00
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    Yep sorry for hijacking your thread ash but at least ppl now know that they don't need to do a test and a few bumps for you too!
    It's an awesome trailer for a bargain price, shame the dimma is to wide as I'm wanting a trailer myself
    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 20:22
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    Bargin ....shame I don't need it ....someone surely needs it ?.....
    They don't come up that new of a condition often ...
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    Posted 31st Jul 2014 at 21:08
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    Bump

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    Posted 10th Aug 2014 at 05:30
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    Bump. Going on ebay soon.

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    Posted 23rd Aug 2014 at 21:12
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    http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/261572597178

    On ebay

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